David Carlson wrote: > ... > My discussion was considering only how much work is being done by the > paddle vs. how much work goes to propelling the boat. The paddle puts > out exactly as much power as was put into it. There is no significant > friction or other energy dissipating mechanism internal to the > paddle. So the difference between effort (paddler output) and paddle > output is nil. The only effort I am neglecting to consider is > physiological, and internal to the paddler. You're making two contradictory claims. One, that power output is equal to power input for all paddles. Two, that some paddles are more efficient than others. Since efficiency is a measure of the ratio between power input and output, you've sort of disproved your claim via a classic reductio argument. If in fact some paddles are indeed more efficient than others- and that is not a claim I have ever made- then you have consider how much useful work is done by the paddle, and how much just goes into heating the water. That's why I stressed boat speed as a measure of useful work done. Since we're not paddling in a calorimeter our only measure of power output is boat speed. So while the energy coming out of the paddle is equal to that going in, minus some negligible hysteresis losses, that's still not the entire story. But we're really still arguing two separate issues. My position was that a human is more efficient at producing lower output over a long period of time than at producing high output for a short time. Biomechanical studies bear that out, and that is why narrow paddles tend to be better for distance paddling. -- mike --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Edelman mje_at_spamcop.net http://www.foldingkayaks.org (nomadics) http://www.findascope.com (choosing a telescope) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu May 17 2001 - 06:01:56 PDT
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