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From: Ken Schroeter <kenschroeter_at_hotmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Sp**s*n Guy
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:16:36 -0400
Jackie is handling this...

Its kinda sad, really.  His message might have some merit, like any other
safety device, but his method of communicating it, and his inability to see
any other way make me stop listening before I've even heard what he has to
say.  I visited his website just to see <what> he was trying to say
(http://www.sponsonguy.com/) and the device has it's advantages, but like
anything else, has its downsides as well.  I don't think I would like to use
them, and therein lies HIS problem: he would think I'm insane, committing
suicide, and contributing to the murder of my friends when I don't recommend
them, when all I did was decide I don't want to use the device, and from
what I have seen he would electronically shake me senseless until I came
around.

When I rigged a me-to-boat tether for my solo paddles in "bad weather", I
thought about the discussions I had seen here, pro and con, and using that
knowledge I've decided to rig up a device I think suits me well to use in
certain circumstances, that does what its supposed to do, lowers my overall
risk without adding new ones (that was tough and a little subjective I have
to admit, and I may not know really until I need it), but I did so knowing
more about what I was doing after I read all of your opinions and ideas.  I
made a choice based on this, and reserve the right to change my mind later
if someone or experience compels me to.  I wish Sp**s*n Guy could bring to
the table the same kind of discussion, when appropriate, in an appropriate
way, then maybe we could add it to our fund of knowledge, whether we use it
or not.  I've sort of done that IRT Sp**s*ns , I guess...

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.

                                        -- Elbert Hubbard

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

                                        -- Nick Diamos

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

                                        -- Winston Churchill

Ken Schroeter

Laconia, NH, USA
43°32'25"N
71°28'59"W








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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sp**s*n Guy
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:51:57 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Schroeter" <kenschroeter_at_hotmail.com>

> if someone or experience compels me to.  I wish Sp**s*n Guy could bring to
> the table the same kind of discussion, when appropriate, in an appropriate
> way, then maybe we could add it to our fund of knowledge, whether we use
it
> or not.  I've sort of done that IRT Sp**s*ns , I guess...

Actually there was a very extensive discussion of sp**s*ns in the early
months of Paddlewise after we left Wavelength.  With him out of the picture
with his rants, the discussion was quite lively and freewheeling with sides
taken in a cogent way.  Any reading of the exchange would have left a person
with a good idea of the pros and cons with which they could make up their
own minds about the worth of the product.  I did quite a "defense" of the
product backing up things that he had claimed (like that the US Military had
looked at them and prepared an extensive report favoring them. I saw the
report so I knew it was true.).  And I related the favorable experience of
some friends who had them preattached to their boats.  I also went into some
provisos about them as well.  The irony is that Tim, a few weeks ago, was
quoting my relatively favorable discussion of them at length on those same
newsgroups that he now brings up the murder charges. :-)

ralph diaz

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