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From: James Tibensky <jtibensky_at_msn.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Forward paddling, paddle length and cockedwrists
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:36:43 -0500
I hope I haven't sent this twice.  I sent another version yesterday but it 
hasn't appeared.

Anyway...

The push vs pull for the forward stroke:

Put the blade in the water at about your knee or so.  Hold the lower hand 
and arm absolutely still and push hard with the top arm.  Use the lower hand 
as a fulcrum, don't pull at all.  What happens?  The boat creeps forward 
about ten inches.

Now take a stroke using only the lower arm and no push.  Start the stroke 
with the top arm straight and don't bend it at all.  A clumsy stroke, but 
the boat jumps about a boat length forward.  So which does the most work?

When I raced and coached sprint kayak [in the 1960s] the Scandinavian style 
stroke had no push at all.  It was called the "sway-impulse" stroke.  Both 
arms were pretty much locked straight, the shaft never went higher than an 
inch or so off the cockpit rim and the seat was very high, almost to the 
deck in some cases.  The guys who paddled this way, with no push, won a lot 
of world championships.

But so did Stefan Kaplanik, the Polish 500 meter specialist.  He told me 
that the push was 75% of his power.  And he was so powerful that he 
sometimes broke his footbraces or snapped the seat off its mounting.

The sermon is: There is no such thing as a perfect forward stroke.  
Different body types, different musculature, sense or lack of balance; these 
all affect the forward stroke.  In rowing there is a perfect technique 
because the oar is fixed.  Paddles are free ranging, like those tasty 
chickens.

A good instructor/coach will be flexible in this area and not try to shoe 
horn everyone into an idealized technique.  Watch the racers, you'll see 
some really ugly strokes done by the guys wearing the gold medals.  Analysis 
might show that the ugly technique is perfect for the individual using it.

End of today's sermon.  Bless us all.

Jim Tibensky
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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Forward paddling, paddle length and cockedwrists
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:23:35 EDT
In a message dated 5/9/01 1:13:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dkruger_at_pacifier.com writes:

> 
>  The paddle I use has a smaller blade face than the Camano, so I doubt 
> switching
>  from a 235 SJ to a 235 Camano would have been OK. 

I understand.  I think that's the problem with the "any 'ol paddle will do 
jes fine" approach to paddle selection that some advocate (not attributing 
anything to you here, Dave -- it's just that you got me thinking).  Sure, you 
can make the boat go and even get used to any paddle you use.  But at some 
point there is the tendency to overdo it, and using a paddle which is much 
too big for your individual body type and conditioning can reek havoc on you. 
 Then, once the damage is done, remedial measures are called for -- such as 
an appropriately-sized or even smaller paddle.  Injury is nature's way of 
telling us we have more to learn about ... paddle sizing?

 For the record, the only
>  time I wish I had that San Juan back is in surf.  That small Lightning 
stick
>  just does not give me enough push on bracing and steering, _quick enough!_
>  
>  It's hell getting old!
>  

Amen, Brother.  Though even ten years ago, I could pull my body apart with a 
220 Camano.  My body is built more for the 220 Little Dipper.  Anything 
larger and I have to be careful or I'll strip my gears.

Harold
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