RE:[Paddlewise] Krueger Kayaks

From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:26:20 -0700
William Malone <wmalone_at_mediaone.net> wrote


>>>>>>>>I am very impressed with Mr. Kruger's paddling and design skills.
He says
"  Whether paddling the Sea Wind canoe or the Dreamcatcher kayak, the
single  blade canoe paddle increases your efficiency.  A double bladed
paddle is necessary for other kayaks because their hull form is unstable
and requires
  bracing on either side in certain conditions. Also, many kayaks don't
have a
  rudder or the rudder is an afterthought. The extra weight of the
off-side blade  swinging through the air accumulates over several
thousand paddle
strokes in a day to sap your energy."<<<<<<<<<<<

Canoe strokes are more efficient for the reason Verlen stated, and the
weight of the blade that must be lifted as well. However the higher sitting
position in one of Verlens very kayak like "Canoes" is why a wider boat is
needed and braces are still necessary as Verlen himself found out off the
Oregon Coast in the early eighties. I guess only one capsize in 28,000 miles
is not unreasonable, but without his partner Steve Landick, Steve's kayak
paddle, an EPIRB, the Coast Guard, and some good luck he wouldn't have
survived. his kayak was recovered eight days later well offshore. A reporter
who paddled with him about that time later stated that Verlen did not have a
brace and would get repeatedly dumped in the surf during a training session
he was a part of in preparation for the West Coast leg of the 28,000 mile
paddle.

>>>>>>>>In a magazine article he talked about a group of canoeist leaving a
group of experienced kayakers behind over a several day trip.<<<<<<<<<

Individual paddlers vary in strength and skill so this means nothing. Steve
Landick was both a canoer and a kayaker and had both paddles with him on the
28,000 mile trip. He said he could make more miles per day using the canoe
paddle and I believe him. I paddled his Monarch for a while (with my kayak
paddle) and it didn't seem especially efficient to me (as one might expect
with a 28" wide hull).

He also says "Contrary to what some  may believe, a larger, longer boat
paddles easier, safer, and with better  handling characteristics than
many smaller less stable craft.  For all its size and  stability the
Dreamcatcher is as fast as some of the marathon racing C-1's."

I doubt this but I have never paddled a Dreamcatcher. Verlen was a top
marathon racer himself so I'm sure he could outpace most paddlers in a
marathon C-1's. Verlen also had the advantage of using a rudder so he didn't
have to switch sides every eight strokes but only when he felt like it
(marathon C-1's don't use a rudder).

>>>>>>>>I would be interested in what some of the more knowledgeable members
of
this group have to say about the relative speed of the Dreamcatcher
and about the endurance speed of the canoeist versus the Kayaker.

I hope Matt Broze will comment.<<<<<<<<

Okay, you sucked me in to responding this time.
In 1984 at the Maine Symposium my roommate, Verlen Kruger, had the loudest
snore I have ever heard before or since. It sounded something like an
intermittent chainsaw. it was hard to carry on a conversation with a third
party during the wall shaking resonance. Good thing, I was very tired and
also a sound sleeper.

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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