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From: <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:33:46 -0400
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a "space blanket" and a
"survival blanket"?

Rick - Poquoson, VA



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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:20:10 -0400
From: <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com>


> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a "space blanket" and a
> "survival blanket"?


The space blanket is a very thin aluminized mylar sheet, silvery on one side 
and gold on the other.  

I have an aluminized tarp that is advertised as a survival blanket and it's somewhat 
heavier.  Rather than mylar, it is a plastic sheet woven from narrow, flat strips and top
coated, similar to the cheap tarps available in any hardware store.  One side is 
covered with an aluminum layer.  It is considerably stronger and more durable than a 
space blanket, but also considerably bulkier.  

While the space blanket is suitable for wrapping a person for a short duration, the 
survival blanket can be used over and over and will suffice as a tarp or bivy tent 
in a crunch.  It will handle a strong wind and is tear resistant; the pinholes in mine
don't appear to affect its strength.

Mike

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From: Ulli Hoeger <uhoeger_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:28:34 -0300
SNAP > >While the space blanket is suitable for wrapping a person for a
short duration, the >survival blanket can be used over and over and will
suffice as a tarp or bivy tent >in a crunch. It will handle a strong wind
and is tear resistant; the pinholes in mine >don't appear to affect its
strength. > >Mike

Depending on the definition of a survival situation I would consider a
space blanket more of a survival blanket than the tarp you described.

Why?  I can carry a space blanket in my pfd pocket, not enough room for a
tarp in there.  This way I have it with me when I may need it most  with
everything else lost.  These things are pretty tought, its just
impossible to fold tham back into a nice parcel after using. 

For roughly 5$ a piece I can affort to buy a new one after been forced to
use it, or even carry more than one (and a somewhat sturdier version
somewhere in my boat).  Given its price, size, and weight a piece of gear
worthwhile to carry in any case......

Ulli

 


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From: Peter Rathmann <prathman_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:00:43 -0700
Ulli Hoeger wrote:
> For roughly 5$ a piece I can affort to buy a new one after been forced to
> use it, or even carry more than one (and a somewhat sturdier version
> somewhere in my boat).  Given its price, size, and weight a piece of gear
> worthwhile to carry in any case...

For a few dollars more, one can get the space blanket in the form of a
bag that is more efficient at retaining heat.  The bag form can also
serve as a vapor-barrier liner inside a sleeping bag to extend the
temperature range if the weather gets colder than anticipated. Of
course, the regular blanket form can also be made into a bag with
application of enough duct tape.  Either way, I agree with Ulli -
they're definitely worth their cost and weight and I've found them to be
surprisingly durable (somehow the weather frequently turns out colder
than I anticipate).

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From: cholst <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:09:54 GMT
Peter Rathmann writes:

> For a few dollars more, one can get the space blanket in the form of a
> bag that is more efficient at retaining heat.  The bag form can also
> serve as a vapor-barrier liner inside a sleeping bag to extend the
> temperature range if the weather gets colder than anticipated. Of
> course, the regular blanket form can also be made into a bag with
> application of enough duct tape.  Either way, I agree with Ulli -
> they're definitely worth their cost and weight and I've found them to be
> surprisingly durable (somehow the weather frequently turns out colder
> than I anticipate).

Duct tape adhesive tends to dry out over time. I recommend black (or any 
other color) plastic electrician's tape, which is far less bulky and stays 
flexible over time. My sleeping bag vapor barrier liner, which I made for 
winter camping from one and a fraction space blankets and electrician's 
tape, is still quite usable some 15 years later. 

Chuck Holst 
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From: Doug Lloyd <dougl_at_islandnet.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] survival blankets
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 00:15:56 -0800
<snip>
For roughly 5$ a piece I can affort to buy a new one after been forced
to
use it, or even carry more than one (and a somewhat sturdier version
somewhere in my boat).  Given its price, size, and weight a piece of
gear
worthwhile to carry in any case......
---------------

Ulli, et al:
On a recent fall multi-day paddle, I encountered colder conditions than
anticipated. At my lunch stop, the rain squalls were so intense that it
was not only cold and wet, but making a cheese sandwich would have been
a soggy experience. In too much of a hurry to get back on the water and
beat the wind direction swing due any moment, and too cheap too pull out
and wreck my space blanket stored in a PFD back pocket in a sealed
pouch, I simply yanked out my tent's "footprint" ground sheet (coated
nylon) which is the last thing to go into the front hatch. I was amazed
at how quickly I warmed up, wrapped in the grey synthetic covering that
offered protection from wind and rain. Ahhhh...relief, if only for a few
moments (this was the trip where my drytop delaminated). One doesn't
always need a space blanket to enjoy the benefits of the Second Law of
Thermodynamics.

Anyway, I do normally carry one or two space blankets, one heavy duty
survival type (but had forgotten the heavy one on the above trip. The
heavy duty one is very robust, and I even use it for picnics with the
family. Its also great as a quick protection liner for the back of a car
or van when you have wet or dirty gear, or place it reflective side out
to protect gear from UV damage in certain situations. I also use it as
an extra ground sheet in colder conditions under the tent, and on
storm-bound days. It also works well on muddy shores or sandy beaches
for loading and unloading gear from the boat. Mine has grommets, and
I've even used it as a mini tarp.

Well, gotta run. My lovely wife is growling over my shoulder - she just
saw the PW header. EEEEK, she's got her broom! Happy halloween
everybody.

Doug L


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