Steve Scherrer "Alder Creek Kayak & Canoe" <aldercreek_at_qwest.net> wrote: >Where's Mr. Broze? > >According to Matt, Mariner kayaks turn by being edged alone. No >initiation required. Something about the asymmetric shape of the hull. > Tilt right and the hull turns left and visa versa. They do, they really do! It's the craziest (but one of the neatest) things I've ever felt. I borrowed a buddy's Mariner Max this summer, and simply paddled in a dead-straight line. Lift the right knee, turn to the left. Drop the knee, and heading straight again (on a new course). Lift the left knee, and turn back onto the original heading. All without a single paddle stroke. It was also surprisingly maneuverable, leanable, and edge-able for a 23" wide boat. I could also handroll it, which surprised me. > Most boats I have paddled are more or less neutral when edged and need >some sort of persuasion or initiation to turn. Yes, and like you said, more edging can pronounce the turn, but the edging doesn't actually produce the turn. I've heard some hard-chined Greenland-style hulls carve paddle-less turns, but I haven't run across one yet. I imagine the Broze brothers' asymmetric hull with no chines forward and hard chines aft is a huge contributor to this effect. I think all of the Mariner models have a very pronounced Swedeform hull shape. Also the "rudderless design" with the huge fixed skeg in the stern. Perhaps the width and flare of the hull contribute to getting this thing fully out of the water in a leaned turn, allowing the hard chines to carve without being stopped by the skeg. And I'm just wondering out loud...I don't expect Matt to give up his hydrodynamics secrets if he doesn't want to. >I would think that a neutral hull would be better, so when doing a peel >out into current, a downstream tilt would allow the hull to freely turn >downstream, instead of trying to turn the hull up against the current. That's a very interesting angle. I wonder what a Mariner does in that situation. I think the faster-moving water toward the middle of the flow would still strike the bow first and bring it around whether the stern was trying to carve or not. Shawn Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Dec 04 2001 - 10:56:41 PST
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