Jolie wrote: >Reality check, John. I think the objections were more to do with your >attitude than your words. Reality check? Attitude? Moi? QTPi wrote: >Ooopps - I may not be too smart and this may be off >the topic but there's no such word as 'dumming'. Try >'dumbing'. Happy paddling! With a handle like "Cutie Pie" one should have no trouble seeing humour in the spelling in context with the sentence. Subtle, I know but this is a subtle group. Richard wrote: >A Great Lakes Freighter is a boat, not a ship, despite what the designers might >say. Ahh Yes, but only if it remains on the Great Lakes. Once it passes out of the lakes and into the ocean it grows up and becomes a ship. This explains why many salt water sailors look down their collective noses at fresh water sailors. A very inappropriate distinction as anyone who has ever sailed on the lakes knows. Incidentally, sailors do not consider one a true shellback until you cross the Equator (Great celebration when you cross for the first time). Those of you who have read Joseph Conrad's "Mirror of the Sea" will know how important language is to the seaman. The distinction subtle meaning in the term "departure" has beauty all its own. Newspaper writers (landlubbers) who "cast" the anchor (you "let go" the anchor on a ship) just about drove Conrad around the twist. No doubt the destruction of the seafaring language will continue but I can see no reason to embrace its demise. For those who like this kind of thing, where I went to school a ship differs from a boat in that you can load a boat on a ship but cannot load a ship on a boat. This gets confusing when dealing with floating dry docks large enough to hold ships. Is a floating dry dock a ship or a dry dock? :-) Jackie wrote: >Naw... trudge on, Sir John. There's a dragon out there that needs >slaying and it's too early in the game to give up yet. That's not >your style :-) Give up? You surely jest. I live by that famous rallying cry "REMEMBER THE SPONSONS" . Can you recall those heady days when Ralph and I were killing children or lamenting our abused childhoods. Fairly makes the heart pound with patriotism. Cheers, John Winters *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>>Ooopps - I may not be too smart and this may be off >>the topic but there's no such word as 'dumming'. Try >>'dumbing'. Happy paddling! > >With a handle like "Cutie Pie" one should have no trouble seeing humour in >the spelling in context with the sentence. Subtle, I know but this is a >subtle group. > >Richard wrote: > >>A Great Lakes Freighter is a boat, not a ship, despite what the designers >might >>say. > >Ahh Yes, but only if it remains on the Great Lakes. Once it passes out of >the lakes and into the ocean it grows up and becomes a ship. >Cheers, > >John Winters Stir stir stir the pot Johnny boy Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When I worked at Ingall's/Litton Shipyard, in Pascagoula MS, they refered to ships (DD class destroyers, LHAs, subs) as boats. Do these government warships become ships again once they leave the shipyard? Or are warships always "boats" to navy personel? On Sat 29 Dec 2001, John Winters wrote: > Ahh Yes, but only if it remains on the Great Lakes. Once it passes out of > the lakes and into the ocean it grows up and becomes a ship. This explains -- Mike McNally mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. -- Evan Davis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When I worked as a contractor to NAVSEA (a segment of the Dept of the Navy concerned with building ships) we called them all kinds of colloquial names. Officially though we referred to all Navy surface vessels as ships, except subs. They are typically called boats. Navy submariners call surface vessels............, targets. :--) Dave G. At 17:01 12/29/01, Mike McNally wrote: >When I worked at Ingall's/Litton Shipyard, in Pascagoula MS, they >refered to ships (DD class destroyers, LHAs, subs) as boats. Do these >government warships become ships again once they leave the shipyard? Or >are warships always "boats" to navy personel? > > >On Sat 29 Dec 2001, John Winters wrote: > > > Ahh Yes, but only if it remains on the Great Lakes. Once it passes out of > > the lakes and into the ocean it grows up and becomes a ship. This explains > >-- >Mike McNally mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net > >Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. > -- Evan Davis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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