Okay Richard, you've piqued my interest: why? saltwater? I thought a 'boat' was what you got into when the 'ship' sinks, and surely these freighters are large enough to carry lifeboats. Shawn Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net> wrote: :A Great Lakes Freighter is a boat, not a ship, despite what the :designers might say. Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Seeing as a boat is what you get into when a ship sinks, then perhaps you're better off in a boat in the first place, with ships sinking and all that. 8*) Rama rama ding ding, Richard Culpeper (I don't know the whys and wherefores. I simply know that when I worked on one, that is what everyone else called it.) Shawn Baker wrote: > Okay Richard, you've piqued my interest: why? saltwater? > > I thought a 'boat' was what you got into when the 'ship' sinks, and > surely these freighters are large enough to carry lifeboats. > > Shawn > > Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net> wrote: > :A Great Lakes Freighter is a boat, not a ship, despite what the > :designers might say. > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Richard Culpeper" <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net> > (I don't know the whys and wherefores. I simply know that when I worked > on one, that is what everyone else called it.) When I asked a naval architect about this years ago, he said: "A ship is a large boat and a boat is a small ship." When I look into two books on hand, I find the definitions of "boat" and "ship" almost as vague as the above. Ship is considered to be a decked vessel with three masts, square rigged, with bowsprit, topmasts and topgallant masts. I guess that makes the carrier USS Enterprise a boat! Bradford's "The Mariner's Dictionary" says that only small submarines are boats while the Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea states that all subs are boats. The latter defines ships as "sea-going vessels", but declines to offer a definition of "sea" nor an opinion as to whether the Great Lakes are an inland sea. The former dictionary suggests that boats are small and undecked - hence a laker is a ship. When in doubt, say vessel and be done with it! Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "D.Mac" <dmac49_at_idsi.net> > So I guess my Kayak is a ship ? > Oops! I left out the part about the exceptions for certain small decked boats, particularly those moved by oars, paddles and such. As Mike E. stated, a gig is a ship; a launch or jolly boat, on the other hand, is not. Go figger. Like I said, a kayak is a fine vessel! Given that our marine vocabulary has been sufficiently polluted by Dutch (yacht, keel, even keelhaul), German, French, Spanish, Italian, and older Latin, Greek, Arabic etc, it's no wonder we get confused! British, Canadian, Australian and US terms differ as well - all nominally English. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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