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From: Shawn Baker <shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Best VHF handheld...Icom M-1V
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:35:32 -0800 (PST)
>The icom m-15 is said by icom to be their best handheld..and is very 
>durable as far as I can tell...and submersion resistant.

>Problem:  No alkaline battery pack is available.

The Icom M1-V, I think, is their top-of-the-line.  Submersible to JIS-7
standard.  It has a Lithium Ion battery pack rather than the NiCad pack
most handhelds have.  My LiIon pack came fully charged, no idea how
long it might have been sitting on a distributor's shelf.  I checked
the weather forecasts daily for a month and used it on one day paddle
before even thinking about a charge--and the battery indicator was only
halfway down.  You couldn't do this with NiCad's.  They lose 1-2% of
their charge _every_ day.  The M1-V is just a little bigger than my
Nokia 252 cell phone.  (Not tiny like the new flip phones, but much
smaller than the average handheld VHF)

The Standard Horizon HX-460S has a similar LiIon pack.  It is about the
same width and thickness as the average VHF, but is about 1/2 the
height.  It has an aluminum chassis--very, very tough!  It also has
separate squelch and volume knobs, which are easier to operate with
gloved hands than the Icom M1-V.

Both of these radios fit very well in a normal sized PFD pocket.  Both
have very high reviews.  It's like the Canon vs. Nikon debate--pick the
one whose ergonomics and features fit you best.

The battery life of these radios is so great that alkalines are all but
unnecessary.  The only drawback to not having an alkaline tray
available is for a long expedition where it would be preferable to have
several changes of alkalines along.  For day or weeklong use, they're
unbeatable.

Shawn

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From: Patrick Maun <patrick_at_patrickmaun.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Best VHF handheld...Icom M-1V
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:57:12 +0100
I would be sure and double-check with Icom, or any manufacturer for 
that matter. I purchased one of Icom's JIS-7 handhelds (I forget 
which as I am not at home right now but I think the original M1) 
and it failed. They fixed it, but then claimed that it was not waterproof 
even though all their advertising and literature stated, and still 
does I believe, otherwise. The radio now stays in a drybag but it 
is very annoying to learn this the hard way. Had I been on an extended 
trip when I discovered this I would have been quite angry.

After getting any piece of gear that claims waterproofness, do the 
bathtub drop test at home and see if it holds up.

-Patrick 

At Tuesday, 29 January 2002, Shawn Baker <shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

>The Icom M1-V, I think, is their top-of-the-line.  Submersible to JIS-7
>standard.  

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From: Jochen Grikschat <grikschat_at_surfeu.de>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Best VHF handheld...Icom M-1V
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:04:43 +0100
> After getting any piece of gear that claims waterproofness, do the
> bathtub drop test at home and see if it holds up.

Waterprrofness sounds so nice, but all Iīve learned is - donīt trust it.
Most things canīt swim, so I place all the important things in waterproof
and floatable bags, so they swim. And if the bag will have a failure
someday, I will notice it quite fast and got time enough to react, before
water will do more heavily damage.

OK, sounds impossible put all the stuff in bags. But itīs "only" the cell
phone, VHF, camera, some flat unfocussed lamp, GPS and VHF-station (25W)
(placed in Curver-Box), ah - and the both handhelds for the VHF Station I
will put in Whanganui-small bags from AQ next time.
Nothing more, sounds enough I think... :-)

bye
Jochen


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