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From: <Heike_Robinson_at_lakeland.cc.oh.us>
subject: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:02:17 -0500
Hi everyone,  I finally got my own little plastic kajak :))
it is a 14" Perception Cobra. Now I have to come up with an idea how to store
the boat in a relative space-saving manner in our 2 car garage.  I was thinking
of a system to suspend it from the sealing on the side of the garage,  so the
boat would hang sidewards.
The next problem is the transport.  What is a better system?  A one-kayak
trailer or a Yakima/Thule roofrack? Which one of these two is better? Has anyone
experience with the side bars as help for loading? Do I need one or two? I am a
5"5' female and will be alone when loading/unloading the kayak. I appriciate
your input.
Thanks,
Heike
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From: Steven A. Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 06:43:15 -0800
The best storage solution that I have been able to come up with is the Eagle
Nest Boat Hoist. I purchased two of these and have both my wife's and my
boats hanging in the garage. It is very easy for 1 person to raise or lower
the boat without any help. You can find info about it here
http://www.canoehoist.com/index.html As usual, I have no interest in this
company whatsoever. I'm just a satisfied customer. You could probably build
something yourself for less money, but I am not a do it yourself type and
this came pre-assembled. Screw it in the ceiling and 20 minutes later you
are in business.

As far as tansportation of a boat is concerned, I like roof racks. It is too
easy for another car to drive into a low trailer and destroy your boat. I
have both Yak and Thule accessories and I prefer the Thule Hydroglides in
the rear and saddles in the front. They seem to hold a boat better than my
other arrangement of Yak Hully Rollers in the back and saddles in the front.

Steve Holtzman

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From: Heike_Robinson_at_lakeland.cc.oh.us
To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net
Sent: February 09, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: [Paddlewise] kayak storage


Hi everyone,  I finally got my own little plastic kajak :))
it is a 14" Perception Cobra. Now I have to come up with an idea how to
store
the boat in a relative space-saving manner in our 2 car garage.......

.......The next problem is the transport.  What is a better system?  A
one-kayak trailer or a Yakima/Thule roofrack? Which one of these two is
better?

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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:19:35 -0500
Hi everyone,  I finally got my own little plastic kajak :))


it is a 14" Perception Cobra. Now I have to come up with an idea how to store



the boat in a relative space-saving manner in our 2 car garage.  I was
thinking


of a system to suspend it from the sealing on the side of the garage,  so the



boat would hang sidewards.





        I used to keep my canoes slung from the ceiling of my garage, using a
rope and pulley system.  There was enough room above where the doors slid in
their tracks.  That worked OK.


        For my kayak and decked C1 I simply used slings suspended from the
side wall.  These were loops made from lengths of lawn chair webbing repair
tapes and held onto nails into the studs.  I installed eyelets for that, so
the webbing wouldn't tear.  I could either take one end down, lift up the boat
end and reconnect the tape then go to the other end and slip the boat end into
the loop, or just sllip the ends in.  The latter worked better.  The boats
hung sideways and there was plenty of clearance.  This should work for a
shorter lighter boat (these were plastic & FG).  Don't know what kind of
stresses this might produce for looong SKs, though...


 


The next problem is the transport.  What is a better system?  A one-kayak


trailer or a Yakima/Thule roofrack? Which one of these two is better? 





        Definitely the racks.  Far cheaper for one thing, and there could be
hassles with licensing/registration you don't need.  Plus the fun of trying to
maneuver the trailer backwards, or for that matter finding a parking spot at a
lunch stop on the way...  The only people I know around here who use such
trailers are instructors who supply their own boats to groups.  And even they
will rackmount their own boats...





    Has anyone experience with the side bars as help for loading? Do I need
one or two? I am a


5"5' female and will be alone when loading/unloading the kayak





        One's plenty.  Lift one end on the side bar, then lift the other end
onto the rack and slide the first one in...   You're lifting only half the
weight of the kayak at a time.





HTH


Joe P.








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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:01:08 EST
In a message dated 02/10/2002 12:23:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
pylka_at_castle.net writes:

<< These were loops made from lengths of lawn chair webbing repair
 tapes and held onto nails into the studs.  I installed eyelets for that, so
 the webbing wouldn't tear.   >>

for about $17 (probably 20-22 now) I got some webbing that had a large hook 
at the top and then the webbing makes a sling and is released by a fastex 
buckle...Campmor used to have them

there's another similar kind that amazingly holds three boats on their sides, 
one on top of each other...i've seen it at an outfitters..

sandy kramer
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:22:17 -0800
I also have one of those webbing things that holds 3 boats on their sides. I
got it from Campmor last year - about $45 now I think. We use this for our
SOT's that don't get used much. It is very difficult for one person to load
or unload a boat from these. That's why I got the hoist set ups that I
mentioned earlier. They're a lot more expensive, but there is an automatic
brake on the winch. The glass boats don't come crashing down to the floor if
I let go of it and one person can easily use it.

Steve Holtzman
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage


> there's another similar kind that amazingly holds three boats on their
sides,
> one on top of each other...i've seen it at an outfitters..
>
> sandy kramer
>

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From: tfj <tfj4_at_attbi.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:47:24 -0600
". . . a system to suspend it from the sealing on the side of the garage"

I found 4 large screw-in hooks in the ceiling (for 17 and 18' kayaks) work
very well.  Make sure you drill holes into the roof joists, aligning the
holes.  Grab loops can be used for bow and stern with straps supporting the
middle points, approximately at the bulkheads.  You may find the kayak seats
itself bottom down rather than sideways.  With four points of attachment,
especially the two middle ones, I have never noticed deformation, even
though the boat is suspended sometimes for months.  In my case, this is
winter storage.  I don't know about prolonged suspension in high heat.

TFJ
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From: <MJKory_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] kayak storage
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 03:04:10 EST
I suspend my kayak from the garage ceiling on its side with a very simple, 
cheap system that has worked great for 4 years. Get two hooks from a hardware 
store that are designed to screw into wood. Drill pilot holes in the wood 
beams of the garage ceiling and screw in the hooks. Have the hooks far enough 
apart to support the boat in the strongest sections of the boat. Buy two 8 
ft. nylon straps with cam locks that are designed to strap a plastic kayak to 
a roof rack and use these as the slings. You can start with the straps having 
very large loops so they hang low to load the boat, and then slowly raise the 
boat as high as needed by progressively tightening the straps by pulling  the 
straps through the cam locks. You can easily unload the boat with one person, 
but getting the boat into the 2 loops for loading is best done with 2 people, 
but possible with 1 person. I have used this system with both a plastic 
sit-on-top and a glass closed deck boat. Works great with both, and the total 
cost is about $10-$12 U.S.

     

In a message dated 2/10/02 4:23:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Heike_Robinson_at_lakeland.cc.oh.us writes:


> Now I have to come up with an idea how to store
> the boat in a relative space-saving manner in our 2 car garage.  I was 
> thinking
> of a system to suspend it from the sealing on the side of the garage,  so 
> the
> boat would hang sidewards.
> The next problem is the transport.  What is a better system?  A one-kayak
> trailer or a Yakima/Thule roofrack? Which one of these two is better? Has 

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