Sam Davis <sd.a_at_att.net> wrote: > Its been a little too quiet so here goes: > 1.. What causes paddle flutter in the forward > stroke > 2.. What's the cure > 3.. Seidman in the Essential Kayaker says " never > allow the pushing hand to go above eye level or > across the centerline of the boat"//Brad Reitz in > his popular video on the forward paddle stroke, says > exactly the opposite..in effect to have a good > vertical stroke, " at eye level cross over the > centerline with your pushing hand" > 4.. So let the debate begin...opinions earnestly > solicited, thanks...sam d. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Sam Davis" <sd.a_at_att.net> > 1.. What causes paddle flutter in the forward stroke > 2.. What's the cure I'm staying away from that this time. > 3.. Seidman in the Essential Kayaker says " never > allow the pushing hand to go above eye level or > across the centerline of the boat"//Brad Reitz in > his popular video on the forward paddle stroke, says > exactly the opposite..in effect to have a good > vertical stroke, " at eye level cross over the > centerline with your pushing hand" Partly it's a style issue, partly it's an issue of what the latest paddling trend is. Going above the eye level is probably a waste of effort. It could mean your paddle's too long or your hands are too far apart to be useful. I wouldn't get concerned with an occasional drift above the eye level. As far as crossing the centerline goes - in the old days, folks were being taught to use both arm and torso action. Proper arm thrust meant a straight-ahead push; crossing the centerline meant you weren't keeping your top hand in line. Rough analogy: think of doing pushups. What's more effective, keeping your arms near your body, holding your arms out to the side or crossing your arms in front of the body? Arms near the body pushing straight up and down is easiest. Hence the same arm action is used in pushing the paddle - and that means straight ahead. The arm action is now seen as not being a useful contribution to long duration paddling. Most of the power comes from the torso and the torso won't fatigue as much as the arms. If you want to use torso rotation only, you'll have your hands cross the centerline a bit on every stroke. Choose the style you're comfortable with and enjoy. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pete, good point. The holes were used in the evolution of his current S O. paddle design and were removed over time. The truth be told his final paddle design is awesome for boating that requires movement of blades through the water as in play boating or squirting. I'm not sure the same design would work so well for sea paddling. JFF >While Jim Snyder did experiment with this and had some >success, it should be noted that the holes weren't the >ultimate answer. He stopped using them in favor of >other methods. There was a lot of discussion (well >some anyway) on rec.boats.paddle several years ago on >this topic. A google search on posting by >"jimisnyder" should turn them up if anyone is >interested. > >Pete Staehling > >--- Joe Federici <fedo_at_hudsonet.com> wrote: >> Jim Syder a well known squirt boat designer and >> paddle maker also >> talks about the use of holes to cut down on flutter. >> If I remember >> correctly it has something to do with breaking up >> the eddies that >> form on the backside of a paddle during a stroke. >> >> JFF > > >Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! >http://greetings.yahoo.com -- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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