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From: <skimmer_at_mail3.enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:04:57 4
Where is Netarts Bay?  What was the water temperature?
The article says two men fell out of "a small inflatable boat".

The kayaker saved one of the men. The Coast Guard has given up the 
search for the other man. The men were dressed in the standard gear 
for open boaters, blue jeans and cotton shirts; no PFD's. Wouldn't be 
caught dead wearing all that sissy cold water/pfd stuff.

Chuck Sutherland

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From: Mary Zuschlag <mzuschlag_at_attbi.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:09:21 -0800
Netarts Bay is near Tillamook Oregon.  I am not sure of the water temps, but
they were in the Pacific on the Oregon Coast in February, so temps were
probably in the 50s.  It is crabbing season so they were out setting
traps. -- MZ

> Where is Netarts Bay?  What was the water temperature?
> The article says two men fell out of "a small inflatable boat".

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From: Peter Rathmann <prathman_at_attbi.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:28:41 -0800
"skimmer_at_mail3.enter.net" wrote:
> 
> Where is Netarts Bay?  What was the water temperature?
> The article says two men fell out of "a small inflatable boat".

Netarts is a town on the Oregon coast at about N 45.5 deg. according to
my GPS.  There's a spit of land south of it that extends northward from
Cape Lookout Park and protects the bay.
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From: Mary Zuschlag <mzuschlag_at_attbi.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:35:11 -0800
  What was the water temperature?

I just checked the buoy information and the ocean temperature was 48 degrees
F. In blue jeans and a cotton shirt you wouldn't last long, no wonder the
Coast Guard gave up. -- MZ

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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:44:29 -0800
skimmer_at_mail3.enter.net wrote:

> Where is Netarts Bay?  What was the water temperature?
> 
> Chuck Sutherland

Mary Z and Peter R already covered most of the bases on this.  I live some
80-90 miles north of Netarts.  Some additional "context:"

The bay is a smallish, very beautiful one, almost entirely naturally covenanted
at the entrance, with no major breakwaters, etc.  Because it is small and no
major rivers feed it, it lacks the enormous current exchanges characteristic of
larger bay/river/estuary systems (the Columbia, SF Bay, Willapa Bay, etc.).

However, it has a "bar," nonetheless, and of course it is there that the crabs
are found at high tide.  That is apparently what the two guys in the small
inflatable were up to:  running pots.  And, their location is OK until the ebb
begins.  (Most recreational crabbers fish the last bit of flood, then
skedaddle.)

Mitch McKinnon was the sea kayaker who did the rescue (relation to Craig?).

And, yes, jeans and a jacket (no PFD) is pretty much SOP down there for small
boaters -- the Bay looks so innocent.  Pretty difficult to change that ethic. 
IIRC, there is a death or two of this type almost every year in Netarts Bay,
with the scenario usually very close to this one.  The ramp is very close to
the mouth of the Bay, so a naive boater can get into trouble pretty quickly.

My sympathy to the loved ones.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Craig MacKinnon <elroca_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:48:42 -0500
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From: "Dave Kruger" <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
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> Mitch McKinnon was the sea kayaker who did the rescue (relation to
Craig?).


With that spelling, he's clearly not a member of Clan Mackinnon. But
nonetheless, he demonstrated Highland courage!



Audentes fortuna juvat,

Craig








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From: Mary Zuschlag <mzuschlag_at_attbi.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayaker saves boater
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:55:10 -0800
> > Mitch McKinnon was the sea kayaker who did the rescue (relation to
> Craig?).

I talked with someone who has boated with Mitch, and apparently he is
sometimes an instructor with the OOPS club in Portland.
http://home.teleport.com/~orops/

Well sounds like he did a fine job, I just wondered if he was alone. -- MZ



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From: Mary Zuschlag <mzuschlag_at_attbi.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Improve your GPS skills
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:13:11 -0800
This is a fun way to hone your GPS skills.  Geocaching use your GPS to find
a cache then you get to move the cache and add to it and take something from
it. We received this at work apparently the National Forests are quite
popular for this sport.
http://www.geocaching.com/

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From: Peter Rathmann <prathman_at_attbi.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Improve your GPS skills
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:11:03 -0800
Mary Zuschlag wrote:
> 
> This is a fun way to hone your GPS skills.  Geocaching use your GPS to find
> a cache then you get to move the cache and add to it and take something from
> it. We received this at work apparently the National Forests are quite
> popular for this sport.
> http://www.geocaching.com/

Yes, sign the log, then take something & leave something, but please
don't move the cache unless it explicitly says to do so.  In general the
caches stay at the same location so others can continue to find them.
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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Improve your GPS skills
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:33:49 -0500
Yes, sign the log, then take something & leave something, but please


don't move the cache unless it explicitly says to do so.  In general the


caches stay at the same location so others can continue to find them.





        However, a few caches have disappeared -- mainly removed by NPS or
other rangers because they were placed in environmentally sensitive areas.  A
few parks now strongly suggest that a geocacher consult with them before
installing one....  





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From: Al Vazquez <alvazquez_at_kayakguide.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Improve your GPS skills
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:59:28 -0500
If you find yourselves on the east coast of Florida near Melbourne, look for my
Geocache on Samson's Island in Satellite Beach. It can only be reached by boat
and it's in the midst of the Indian River Lagoon; a great area to paddle with
dolphins and the largest manatee population of any county in Florida. The paddle
directions are on KayakGuide while the Geocache directions are on
Geocaching.com.

"Geocaching" is so much fun it's addictive. It's a treasure hunt in which
there's always more treasure. And it's particularly fun for paddlers.
--

Al Vazquez
KayakGuide.com tm
the Place to Share Kayaking & Canoeing tm


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From: Ulli Hoeger <uhoeger_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Improve your GPS skills
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:14:45 -0400
Oh,

That's what the British commandos were doing in Spain the other day..
Guess they need to work a bit on ther navigation skills...
Ulli

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