Rick, Looking over the spec's of the 2 tents, the materials in the floor and body are identical. The Eureka is a little bigger (41 vs 34 sq. ft.) and a little over 3 pounds heavier (5-3 vs 8-6). The Coleman measures 6" x 15" when packed, the Eureka is 6.5" x 23". Is the Eureka worth $45 more? Hard for me to say. The price of $119. for that tent is a great one though! Ron *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Looking over the spec's of the 2 tents, the materials in the > floor and body > are identical. The Eureka is a little bigger (41 vs 34 sq. > ft.) and a little > over 3 pounds heavier (5-3 vs 8-6). The Coleman measures 6" x > 15" when packed, > the Eureka is 6.5" x 23". Is the Eureka worth $45 more? Hard > for me to say. > The price of $119. for that tent is a great one though! > Thanks for the info. I wonder.... with many tents having the same materials, how much emphasis should I place on construction? Are they all using some standard specification for strength of stitching and so forth? Can you even compare that objectively, or is it simply subjective opinion regarding the workmanship? Thanks for all the help! Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Rick asked: I wonder.... with many tents having the same materials, how much emphasis should I place on construction? Are they all using some standard specification for strength of stitching and so forth? Can you even compare that objectively, or is it simply subjective opinion regarding the workmanship? Keep in mind you may be beached with 35 knot winds one day and become an advocate of wind shedding designs, not wind shredded designs. As for weight, I failed to include why it is important. Since you are an Easterner, "The Virginian", you are not all that far from the Everglades. There you will need to ship all the freshwater you will need for 1-2 weeks. The 8-10 pound tents will infringe on the space and weight capacity of your boat. I fight with this all the time. I'm 225 pounds and I like long and skinny boats that handle between 300 and 350 pounds payload. That makes water at 8 pounds per gallon x 1 gallon minimum per day an issue. I like quality lightweight tents because they do not inhibit space or weight restrictions in places like the Everglades or Baja, where water has to be carried. Both my tents have been blasted with winds in the 35-40 knot steady range and I never fear their durability. The taller domed tents seem to be aimed at the less severe weather market. You may also check out www.rei.com. They sell very good stuff at reasonable prices. Good luck and we expect a well drafted trip report when you get back. RG *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > I wonder.... with many tents having the same materials, how much > emphasis should I place on construction? Are they all using some > standard specification for strength of stitching and so forth? Can you > even compare that objectively, or is it simply subjective opinion > regarding the workmanship? > > Thanks for all the help! > > Rick for my 21st birthday i "treated myself" to a good tent. i wanted a roomy [or relatively so] tent, built to really last, take the abuse of being used in the snow, on rocks, and realized i would pay the weight penalty. i bought the eureka timberline, which has been made for a million years or so... but i "splurged" and paid the extra for the outfitter's model, which was heavier duty... i'm turning 41 in a couple months. i keep it clean, but packed in it's stuff sack. it got used far mare in the first 10 years, roughly 15 overnighters a year, plus weeklong trips. the last 10 only 4 or 5 times a year, but with my kids... i am "splurging" this year and getting a whole new frame, but it still has the original zippers, only has pinholes at most in the floor, never a rip, tear or burn [ok, that one i can control somewhat, but smoking and cooking have been done inside on more than one occasion. as folks say 'your milage may vary' last i knew the outfitter models were still sewn in the USA, the rest imported... but that was years ago. i expect i'll get another 10 years out of it. [kids are moved out!!] oh, when we went to buy our daughter her own tent, we bought a eureka. have fun mark -- #------seakayaker[at]dotzen[dot]org-----/------------------------------ mark zen o__/ o_/| o_. po box 474 [\/ [__| [__\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 `\--------/--------/' (`----|-------\-') http://www.dotzen.org/folks/markz ~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ #---------------------------------------------------------------------- A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. ~~ English Proverb http://www.dotzen.org/paddler - Rocky Mountain Sea Kayak Club, The Colorado Paddlers' Resource *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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