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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Tents for Rick
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:34:25 -0800
Rick Silva wrote:

> I found the following on the web - what do you think about it?  Huge
> discount.... but is the tent worth it????
> 
> Eureka Nightscape 2 Tent
> Reg $199.95   Sale $119.96
> Item # 26590 at Campmor under the "WEB BARGAINS" section.

Depends on where you plan to take it.  I see you have already gotten plenty of
advice.  If you expect to be in exposed locations, I would not buy this tent. 
It will not shed the wind well.  OTOH, for camping in sheltered locales, it
will be OK.  Consider size of vestibule, also.  Good to have a place for wet
gear that is protected from additional rain, so you don't have to drag yucky
stuff inside.

I agree with others that FG poles suck.  The sharp bend in the poles for this
tent also worries me.  A bend concentrates the stress and makes that place
susceptible to breakage.

Last thought:  get a small two-person tent.  Big enough for two to squeeze, and
luxurious for one if alone.

I like Kelty, North Face, Mountain Hardwear, and Sierra Designs (in no
particular order).  That said, Eureka typically has a "knock off" copy of the
more popular tents from these other manufacturers, at a lower cost and
practically the same quality.  Warranties from the other manufacturers are
excellent.  I have no experience on that score with Eureka.

The bottom line:

Buy one.  Later, you will decide what you should have bought, and you can sell
the tent you don't like and get what you really want at your leisure (or, at a
sale).

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents for Rick
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:08:31 -0500
From: "Dave Kruger" <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>

> If you expect to be in exposed locations, I would not buy this tent. 
> It will not shed the wind well.  OTOH, for camping in sheltered locales, it
> will be OK.  

I'd recommend a tent that sheds wind well.  I find that I prefer to set up
in an exposed area and let the wind take care of the mosquitos and blackflys.
You'll also not have to worry if you find yourself on a small, unsheltered
island.

> Last thought:  get a small two-person tent.  Big enough for two to squeeze, and
> luxurious for one if alone.

I did this and got a real good deal on the last of an out-of-production tent.
(further discount since they lost the tent pegs!).  My only regret is that
I didn't know at the time that a Hennessy Hammock could be set up as a tent.
If I knew that, I would have paid the higher price for the hammock.  Given
the hammock's flexibility as a one person design, that's a consideration if 
you don't need a two person.

> I like Kelty, North Face, Mountain Hardwear, and Sierra Designs (in no
> particular order).  That said, Eureka typically has a "knock off" copy of the
> more popular tents from these other manufacturers, at a lower cost and
> practically the same quality.  Warranties from the other manufacturers are
> excellent.  I have no experience on that score with Eureka.

Agreed.  My experience with a Eureka Timberline (21 years service) is that
the warranty wasn't needed.  We have two Eurekas, a North Face and now an
MEC.  No problems with the first three after lots of service.  The MEC will
get its test this coming year.

Mike

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From: Steve Scherrer <Flatpick_at_teleport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents for Rick
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:52:32 -0800
Ditto on the Eureka! no service needed statements.

I have had a Eureka! timberlite tent as a primary solo guide tent (could
squeeze two) for years and years with no problem.  withstood 40 knot wind
and tons of PNW rain, save some leaky corner seams (seam sealant).  After 10
years I still sold it for $50.

I have a walrus now.  I like the logo, tent seems ok.  time will tell.

steve



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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents for Rick
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 08:32:29 EST
In a message dated 02/08/2002 12:08:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
michaeldaly_at_rogers.com writes:

<< My only regret is that I didn't know at the time that a Hennessy Hammock 
could be set up as a tent. >>

Mike, that is my goal with my HH....are you referring to the set-up on their 
website using trekking poles????  Or have you hopefully come up with 
something easier and less intimidating.

I want to see if I can put some aluminum tent poles on the inside.  Of 
course, since entry is from below, I'll have to put it on like a dress of 
sorts and then contortion myself down.

Has anyone come up with a way to use the HH as a tent?

sandy kramer
miami
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents for Rick
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:29:35 -0500
From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>

> In a message dated 02/08/2002 12:08:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> michaeldaly_at_rogers.com writes:
> 
> << My only regret is that I didn't know at the time that a Hennessy Hammock 
> could be set up as a tent. >>
> 
> Mike, that is my goal with my HH....are you referring to the set-up on their 
> website using trekking poles????  Or have you hopefully come up with 
> something easier and less intimidating.

Yes, that would be my approach.  I'd try half paddles instead of trekking
poles.  If that didn't work, I'd get creative.  I'm sure I could rig 
something up with spare lines if I was in an area with trees and bushes
that weren't big enough to support it in hammock mode.  Driftwood would
work in treeless areas.  But to be safe, I'd want to be able to bring
along something that suffice and not rely on scrounging.  

Living in Canada means a steady supply of broken hockey sticks is 
always available.  They can be found in the trash wherever there 
are kids - free, biodegradable and easily replaced, I'd probably 
just stash a couple, cut to size, on the rear deck and not worry 
about the effects of water on them.  (broken hockey sticks are so 
plentiful, I've often considered collecting them and making a 
skin-on-hockey-stick kayak!)

Mike

PS - I've modified a tarp to use ski poles to create an emergency 
tent when backcountry skiing, so this sort of thing isn't 
intimidating to me.  Take a survival course and you can turn 
almost anything into a shelter!

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