Rob Baran wrote: >Hello, I'm new to the list. I was wondering if anyone knows of a reliable >and affordable collapsible water carrier in the 2-5 gallon range. I'm >considering a Baja trip next month. Alex wrote about wine bladders: >As they will conform to any shape they are the most effective way of carrying water, will fit where >nothing else will. I never liked the nylon covered "wine box liners" for kayaking (although I've got one for backpacking since the late 70's when they first came out as water containers and suggested my employer, Early Winters, sell them). They seemed difficult to fit where I wanted them to go in a kayak. They always seamed to want to blob roll down to the middle and they did not have enough shape to stuff in anywhere else without a lot of fussing and two hands. I use a combination of two collapsible containers. The cheapest ones are the two liter soda pop bottles that I collect when I can (I'd pour out the on sale soda pop before I'd drink it if I had to buy them though-even if you have to buy the product with them they are cheap). They are also very tough. I stomp them flat (except for the mouth) to save space when they are empty and blow them back up to fill them again. I like not having all my water eggs in one basket especially in Baja where enough drinking water could become a life or death issue and is most often not easily available. When these soda bottles are full they can be jammed into nooks and crannies between gear bags and can be used to shift weight easily from one side of the kayak to the other so that it will float level once loaded. The other container I use is the 2.5 gallon size "Reliance" jug. It is about an 8 to 9" cube and will fold fairly small (very similar to the cube at REI but with a red carrying handle and a twist to pour spout). Made in Canada if I remember correctly. They also made a 5 gallon version but I found them too unwieldy and heavy when full (not to mention the eggs in one basket problem). Two of the 2.5 gallon ones can fit side to side behind me and, as opposed to the slinky wine jugs, will stay where I put them. Compared to the similar cube type from REI, the Reliance jug's handles and hanging hole also let me secure them better in the back deck if need be for those long Baja trips (such as the time I had about 10 gallons of water in and on my Khatsalano S when paddling out of Loreto. BTW figure at least a gallon of water per person per day for your Baja trip. The corners of these square type jugs (where they are thinner walled and fold into points) are very vulnerable to getting a pin hole leak worn into them. I haven't had much problem with this since I ran into Kenny Howell on my first trip to Baja back in 1986 (I think). He was a guide for Sea Trek and he showed me the cure for leaky corners that had worked for them. Inflate the jugs when they are new and tape an X of duct tape over each corner of the cube before ever using them. These jugs were widely available at most general sporting goods and camping stores. However, the duct tape trick worked so well for me that it has been a long time since I have looked for these jugs so I don't know if they are still available now. I have had to replace the dried out duct tape once or twice since first getting them though. If you tie a short cord with a hook on it to the handle and/or hanging hole they make a good emergency paddle float. Wrap the cord around the paddle shaft a couple of times and hook the cord to itself to attach it to the shaft, the cord will cinch up and not let it slide up the shaft. In fact, the "Reliance" jugs became the first "commercial" paddlefloat as that is what I finally settled on when I was looking for something better than my PFD to use when I was first developing the paddlefloat rescue. I was looking for a floating device that was easy to attach, compact, easy to inflate and use, cheap (then it was under $6.00 retail) and widely available to paddlers before promoting our then new rescue widely to the then very small sea kayaking community. There is a drawing of this jug about 2/3 of the way through the "Owner's Manual" on our website. It shows two cords securing the jug to the paddle shaft but one cord was usually enough (with two cords tied to the jug in advance there was a back-up in case one failed and with both attached the paddle would be held more horizontal when in use-but still not as horizontal as with the more modern envelope style paddlefloats I now prefer). Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat Mar 23 2002 - 03:16:32 PST
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