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From: <skimmer_at_mail3.enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Self-rescues
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:34:04 4
Regarding self-rescues, why isn't there some interest in re-entry and 
rolling with the aid of the paddlefloat, instead of the vastly more 
risky standard float assisted re-entry? (broken paddles, difficult 
balance, etc.)

Thanks,
Chuck Sutherland
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Self-rescues
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:45:40 +1100
Chuck wrote: -
>Regarding self-rescues, why isn't there some interest in re-entry
>and rolling with the aid of the paddlefloat,

G'Day,

Couldn't agree more Chuck - reentry and roll with a paddlefloat is my
preferred 'non roll' self rescue. For me its simpler and faster than the
standard float reentry and leaves you with the paddlefloat in exactly the
right position for stabilising the kayak after the rescue. (But of course
not a substitute for learning how to roll or reentry and roll).

I can think of two occasions when it might be needed - The paddler is too
tired/disoriented to roll properly and/or the water is rough enough to tip
the paddler out of their boat.

When seriously practising I'll terminate the session once too
tired/disoriented/waterlogged to succesfully roll and finish with a
paddlefloat reentry and roll. Once tired my rolls fail due to the paddle
diving, weak hip flick, raising the head too soon and/or water in the boat
and the paddlefloat tends to counteract all of that.

On the other hand although I've tried this in rough water I haven't yet been
game to try in conditions which would likely tip me out of the boat as
nowadays that is fairly severe (I'm touching wood furiously at the
moment:~)) and its harder to find volunteers to help. Theres a catch 22 in
there somewhere, also a certain amount of apprehension. It would be very
useful to hear anyone who's had to use the technique in a 'genuine' non
practise rescue in rough water.

Also I've taken to putting one leg in the boat to hold it close while
putting on the paddle float. Someone suggested this to me years ago on
Paddlewise. Does anyone know some of the hazards that might apply when
trying this in really rough water.


All the best, PeterO
(who needs lots more practise)

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From: Rafael Mier Maza <sildriel_at_ciateq.net.mx>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Self-rescues
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 12:35:32 -0600
At 03:34 p.m. 01/03/02 +0000, skimmer_at_mail3.enter.net wrote:

>Regarding self-rescues, why isn't there some interest in re-entry and
>rolling with the aid of the paddlefloat, instead of the vastly more
>risky standard float assisted re-entry? (broken paddles, difficult
>balance, etc.)

I share your comment.  It is the fastest way to get back to the boat after 
a roll. It is for me the easiest way to rescue myself and if I am feeling 
weak with my roll, I inlfate the paddle float more and can do extended 
roll, sweep roll, C to C roll very easily with the added assistance of the 
paddlefloat. Once in the cockpit I slide the paddle blade under the knee 
support and let the paddlefloat side hang out to help me stay balanced 
while pumping out.

It is much easier and less energy consuming than trying the paddlefloat 
rescue climbing up into the boat and sliding into the cockpit , specially 
if water is rough and the boat does not have a paddle holder aft of the 
cockpit.

I found an inflatable paddle float that only inflates on one side and 
leaves the paddle underside free so that you can practice rolls, reducing 
the air volume until you only have a very thin layer of air which is more a 
psychological aid than a real rolling aid. We call it the psycho-float.

Best Regards,

Rafael.
www.mayanseas.com

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