Kevin said: <snip the facts> So in conclusion, standing around on shore in a goretex suit will quickly dry out your clothes! What a luxury... :) ----------- Kevin, I agree here, but do wish to raise one point (and I'm not sure if it was mentioned yet). Dave was indicating that if Gortex wearers are on the cold side standing around, then they need more insulation. This can be a hassle removing and redoning a breathable drytop and/or drysuit. What I was doing in the end was to wear more insulation when I set off, knowing it would provide more comfort at the upcoming lunch stop. But then I would get a new problem. I was too warm paddling and really perspired if the sun poked out from the clouds. In my non-breathabe paddling jacket I could wear less insulation and stay comfortable on the water, but at stops the lighter layer of insulation was wetter from sweat, so I was about just as cold as with the Goretex. In the end, my priority is what's going on while I'm actually paddling. Who stands around on the beach much anyway, in winter. For on-the-water comfort in rougher seas, I've found the non-breathable better. The breathable fabric just feels plain cold when water hits the arms. I don't know why, and have no explanation. It just feels "wet" when the wave hits, even though no water penetrates. Weird. Where the non-breathable is just plain awful is when the sun cranks it up. If its windy, wet, wild and sunny, Gortex is the way to go on the water. may sound a bit confusing, but with my new coated drysuit and a breathable paddling drytop combined with a Farmer John, I may have it covered. BTW, the UK coaches often wear drysuit pants in a bib style. They can stand in the water giving lessons, then don a drytop and be 95% sealed. Well, its been a good thread. Hey, as far as a monogram, I wish my mother had named me Henry instead of Douglas like she wanted to, then I could buy Henri Lloyd products and be automatically monogramed. :-) Doug Whites *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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