Re: [Paddlewise] Hypothermia Table

From: Ulli Hoeger <uhoeger_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:05:30 -0400
>From: "Michael Daly" <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
>Too many variable to determine easily.  A good dry suit will allow 
>indefinite
>exposure, as will a heavy wetsuit.

Hi folks

I have a problem with this statement, and I assume we all still talking 
paddling clothing here. Don't get a wrong impression of safety. Wearing a 
dry suit while paddling will still leaves the possiblity of hypothermia. 
Don't get or give people a false sense of security.

A "good"(?) dry suit will definitley NOT give you indefinite exposure time!

Suits worn for ice diving or cold water diving are not comparable with the 
ones one would wear for recreational on the water sports.

A drysuit suitable for paddling is NOT a immersion or survival suit, like 
the ones you may find on ocean going vessels or drilling rigs as evacuation 
equipment (cold water diving suits are close to them).  Those are made from 
thick neoprene (still most of them are dry suits). They are heavy, bulky, 
and warm, but also the last thing you want to wear for going paddling. Even 
in those suits survival time in cold water is by no means indefinite, just a 
heck lot longer than with any other outfit.

A paddling, sailing, or surfing dry suit is nothing else than a jumpsuit 
made from waterproof fabric with latex gaskets around the 5 holes were 
various body parts stick out.
If it works, it will keep you dry, nothing else! That's it!

Warm keeps you whatever you wear underneath it. And yes, with such a dry 
suit you will still have to dress for water temperature and not for air 
temperature to be safe.

Most of use wear various layers of fleece and tech-fabric under it, looking 
for a solution somewhere between staying warm in the water for some time 
while swimming, but not to warm while being dry and paddling.

It's a compromise, most likely leaning towards the dry site of the equation. 
Therefore hypothermia can and will get to you also in such a outfit. Later 
than it would hit you when just wearing fleece or cotton, and maybe later 
than wearing a wet suit, but at one point it will get you.

No matter what you wear, you have to get out of the water as fast as 
possible, and out of the wet clothing and into dry stuff ASAP.

My 0.02$

Ulli

P.S. There are publications from a guy in England who tested some of the 
combinations(swim vs wet vs dry suit) for the Navy.  Don't remember his name 
right now, but he is big in hypothermia research.  However, his data shows 
that a drysuit is not that much better than a wetsuit, but as far as I 
remember it wasn't clear what people wore under it and what kind of wet suit 
it was (sure not a 3mm farmer john).
Run a medline database search with the keywords hpothermia, cold shock , 
immersion and his name will pop up several times.

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