Chuck said: <snip> <<<< Frustrating, therefore, when the USCG and other marine patrols then say, upon hauling out another victim, "WHY DON"T YOU PEOPLE WEAR PFDs?" >>>> Chuck, I think in this case the CG were saying what they said in deference to the fact that the fellow slipped below the surface of the water so quickly and had no chance without his PFD. The other fellow, afterall, did make it, so maybe a PFD might have been very beneficial. There have been a number of immersion deaths lately around BC and in most cases a PFD was not worn. But your point is well taken -- that the message boaters are getting is not giving enough correct emphasis to immersion apparel and training issues. I should mention this incident occured in the early afternoon, not the evening as I implied. Also, you guessed it good Dr., the two men were not wearing immersion apparel of any description. Also, I geuss the spray skirt issue is a red herring, as I don't believe rec boats normally come with a skirt. Doug *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Chuck writes: The pattern continues to define itself. Those who die in the cold-water paddling season are generally outside the "paddling community". They are beyond the reach of clubs, paddling magazines, and the many sites on-line that so diligently provide readers with good advice. In the PNW the cold water paddling season starts midnight January 1st and officially ends on midnight December 31st. Options to renew are immediately extended without further notice. Water temps are typically high 40's to low 50's. If one has a brain, immersion apparel is mandatory, regardless of summer's balmy skies. One could only wish to see all of our increasingly popular sport's adherents wearing the right things, carrying the right gear, but Chuck is correct: There are some beyond the reach of clubs, mags, etc. People of reason, such as Chuck, are vital for paddling discussion. It matters little if it's on Paddlewise or a put in, keep contributing and turn on a few more people. Just a small voice from the peanut gallery, Rob Gibbert *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:17 PM 4/15/02 EDT, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote: > >One could only wish to see all of our increasingly popular sport's adherents >wearing the right things, carrying the right gear, but Chuck is correct: >There are some beyond the reach of clubs, mags, etc. People of reason, such >as Chuck, are vital for paddling discussion. It matters little if it's on >Paddlewise or a put in, keep contributing and turn on a few more people. Sad to say, but it's not just the paddling community. We had a case like that around here just today. Three guys walleye fishing in an aluminum rowboat on the Maumee River near Toledo. Strong current, runoff conditions, water temps in the 40s at a guess. No PFDs, of course. Immersion gear? What's that? Can you swim? Well, uh . . . The boat overturned. One guy made it to shore on his own, and a young guy fishing along the bank managed with some risk to get to a second guy. Third guy gone; his jacket found miles downriver, no sign of him. -- Wes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Boyd's Kayak Place http://www2.dmci.net/wesboyd/kayak.htm Kayaks for Big Guys (And Gals) | Trip Reports | Places To Go | Boats & Gear --------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hmmmm, The price of my Dagger Cypress "rec boat" didn't include a spray skirt but I didn't leave the shop without one. FWIW, Dave G. The other Poquoson, Va paddler At 18:02 4/15/02, Doug Lloyd wrote: <snip a bunch> >Also, I geuss the spray skirt issue is a red herring, as I >don't believe rec boats normally come with a skirt. > >Doug *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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