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From: <Blankibr_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Strobes
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:34:07 EDT
Even if the slow flash mode does not achieve the required 50 - 70 times per 
minute to be considered a  considered a distress signal, I strongly urge you 
to not use it unless you are under distress.

I doubt people watching from shore are going to count the speed of the 
flashes before calling the authorities.

Brian Blankinship

>
> Even if it is slower than what is legally a distress signal, would it be
> wise to not use it anyway?
>
> Dave

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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Strobes
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:08:11 EDT
In a message dated 4/24/2002 10:46:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
squtch_at_quiet-like-a-panther.org writes:


> What are the inland rules again for how fast is has to flash for it to be a 
> distress signal? I seem to remember that it was at least once a second. If 
> that's the case the slower mode might be useful for signaling other boats 
> to 
> your presence. 
> 
> Even if it is slower than what is legally a distress signal, would it be 
> wise to not use it anyway? 
> 
I don't know what the inland rules require. You might want to consult John 
Dowd's Sea Kayaking or Burch's  Sea Kayak Navigation. The coast guard web 
site may help also. 

When using a light source as a potential distress signal consider that a 
strobe intended as such is omni directional and an led is directional. What 
this means is that a 360 degree strobe placed on shoulder of pfd has a 
greater likelihood of conspicuity from all directions as opposed to an led 
that flashes in only one direction.

Also, an (assumed) headband mount gives rise to many questions. They are:

would it survive a rough water capsize?
would vertigo affect a user with a headband mount.
could multiple units be lashed to pfd?
would pfd mount affect directional nature of led signal?

hmmmmm...

Rob G



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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Strobes
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:54:42 EDT
In a message dated 4/24/2002 12:36:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
squtch_at_quiet-like-a-panther.org writes:


> > would vertigo affect a user with a headband mount.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by this. How might wearing a headlamp cause 
> vertigo? I've worn headlamps for years for both backpacking and paddling 
> without any problems. 
> 
Vertigo generally concerns off balance or dizziness, however, when discussing 
signal lighting, vertigo is the dizziness related to a flashing signal, 
usually in nighttime conditions. Imagine driving at night, in snow, rain or 
fog. Then, flash your headlights to high every second for a bit. One will 
usually experience vertigo, quickly. I was only addressing the signal 
potential of the led. And by the way, I caught the ad for the light a couple 
months ago and have yet to find them.

A head mounted led flashing a signal may provide the same consequences. My 
pfd mounted strobe is a bit of a vertigo producer at night, at sea. I woder 
if you might test the headmounted led signal at night while paddling to judge 
its affects compared to a strobe?

Rob

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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Strobes
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:10:32 -0700
David Anderson <squtch_at_quiet-like-a-panther.org> wrote:

> Okay, so it's my own fault for not paying close enough attention the first 
> time around on this issue (or the second . . .)
> 
> I have just received a Princeton Tec Aurora LED headlamp to test. It's quite 
> a nice little light, and one of it's features is that you can set it to 2 
> different strobe modes. Slow flashes about every 2 seconds and fast is about 
> twice a second. 

Don't know the legal timing for use as a distress signal.  A few practical
considerations:

Any strobing will likely be regarded as a distress signal, AFAIK.  Timing may
be irrelevant, especially since yours is not omnidirectional.  Consequently, an
observer will not see every flash.

The biggest concern:  For locating you in seas, the Coast Guard strongly
prefers a constant light.  Strobes are hard to focus on, and make keeping you
in sight harder than a constant light.

A local bar pilot fell into the sea off the Columbia River, and was lost for a
couple of hours.  The CG helo eventually located him from the splashing his
arms made as they flew past, not his strobe (which had failed), and not his
reflective tape.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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