It seems a lot of us are up for a web-based database for visiting paddlers, me too, I'll add. There seems to be a consensus on a lot of the details of "how", but there is still the question of who is going to create and maintain such a list. Bill Leonard's tier system seems great to me, I'll go with that, Cheers, Kevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 07:56 AM 4/12/02 +0200, Kevin Dyer wrote: >It seems a lot of us are up for a web-based database for visiting paddlers, me >too, I'll add. > > >There seems to be a consensus on a lot of the details of "how", but there is >still the question of who is going to create and maintain such a list. I create database driven web sites for a living so I guess I'll go ahead and volunteer to do the coding. I can develop it at home or on a machine at work but once it's done I'd like to see it hosted somewhere else. The host requirements are going to be fairly significant. A database will need to be installed. I'd probably use MySQL or Postgresql (both are free) and since I'm a Java programmer would want a servlet environment (preferrably Tomcat). I also have written a database driven GIS application using an open source mapping API and am going to be doing a lot more of that at my job so there is the potential for a really cool user interface. Imagine a mapquest like interface where one can search for a location or click on a map and features will appear. Different colored icons for 1, 2, or 3 tier paddlers could show up, as well as icons for local paddle shops. Since I've got access to hydrography data it could even show local paddling locations. The GIS application that I have worked on basically creates a thematic map on the fly from statistical data about agriculture from the USDA but I made it flexible enough that other kinds of data could be mapped as well. During my research for the site I came across one that links to a bunch of servers for displaying seismic magnitued. One could click on an area and it would show the location of recent earthquakes and their magnitude. The data could be obtained from a list of servers which captured the data and made it available more or less in real time. I thought it would be kind of cool if the same kind of thing could be done from stream flow gauges as they're becoming web accessible. For whitewater paddlers, not only could one tell where local rivers were but how high they were running. OK, that might be a bit much. I also would want a consensus on what the system requirements should be before I started working on it. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm no computer guru like John, but I'm willing to help build the database, if it's not an integral part of the code wizardry he needs to do. Shawn John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu> wrote: >I create database driven web sites for a living so I guess I'll go ahead and volunteer to do the coding. I can develop it at home or on a machine at work but once it's done I'd like to see it hosted somewhere else. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
If there are no other volunteers, I can host such a thing on my kayakforum.com site. I can deal with MySQL, perl, PHP, etc stuff. I can put things in protected directories as needed for security. There is significant overlap between Paddlewise and people who currently use the Kayakforum. All I would ask is that the database be fairly efficient and it not be too processor intensive. A cool interface would be great so long as it doesn't get too cute or gimmicky or slow. I always think the "signal-to-noise" ratio should be kept high. The usually means a pretty basic interface. I have rarely been happy with Java stuff. They often seem very slow and often don't work as advertised. But if it does work I have nothing to complain about. At 7:41 AM -0400 4/12/02, John Fereira wrote: >At 07:56 AM 4/12/02 +0200, Kevin Dyer wrote: >>It seems a lot of us are up for a web-based database for visiting >paddlers, me >>too, I'll add. >> >> >>There seems to be a consensus on a lot of the details of "how", but there is >>still the question of who is going to create and maintain such a list. > >I create database driven web sites for a living so I guess I'll go ahead >and volunteer to do the coding. I can develop it at home or on a machine >at work but once it's done I'd like to see it hosted somewhere else. The >host requirements are going to be fairly significant. A database will need >to be installed. I'd probably use MySQL or Postgresql (both are free) and >since I'm a Java programmer would want a servlet environment (preferrably >Tomcat). > -- Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks 824 Thompson St Glastonbury, CT 06033 (860) 659-8847 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
That certainly sounds like a great offer. As Nick says, many of us frequent Nick's Guillemot sites anyway. I very much agree with the need for security. We need some way to protect the database from its being open to the whole web, although there isn't much to stop someone from joining Paddlewise just to get the database lists. John Nick Schade wrote: > > If there are no other volunteers, I can host such a thing on my > kayakforum.com site. I can deal with MySQL, perl, PHP, etc stuff. I > can put things in protected directories as needed for security. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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