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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: [Paddlewise] VHF bags
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:26:17 +1300
Greetings from a newbie.

I'm after some advice, and you folk seem the logical people to ask. I use an
Apelco VHF 520 which I have been using in a waterproof bag, despite the
claims that it is submersible. The only bags available here in NZ are the
Aquapac bags, but after having two leak, I feel it is time to change.

VHF Protector bags, as advertised by Boundary Bay Kayaks, at:

<http://www.boundarybay.com/Kayaks/Kayak_Gear/Dry_Bags/dry_bags.html>

look like good products, but before I fire off a handful of weak NZ dollars
I'm hoping someone has used them and can give feedback.

Any other suggestions, with sources if possible, would be great.

Happy Paddling

John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
New Zealand
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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] VHF bags
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:02:27 EDT
In a message dated 4/13/2002 7:32:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jka_at_netaccess.co.nz writes:


> I use an Apelco VHF 520 which I have been using in a waterproof bag, despite 
> the claims that it is submersible. 

I've had an Apelco 510 for six or seven years, and have had very little 
problem with it --- and have never used a bag.  It's been in the bilge of a 
sinking life raft overnight, and bashed about with no significant problem.  
To augment the waterproofness of the unit, I've run a couple of turns of 
warmed electrical tape around the joint between the body and the battery.  
Stays dry.

"Dry bags" are like tracers: they work both ways.  If you do get water inside 
it --- even condensation --- a dry bag will give your radio a good, humid 
soak for as long as it's in there.  That can be worse than a good splash or a 
dunk.

Jack Martin

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From: Ed Svoboda <svoboda_at_attbi.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Pigmy Coho
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:17:33 -0500
I recently received my Pigmy Coho kit and since the weather in Northern
Illinois is finally warming up I may start construction by the end of
the month.  A good friend of mine is an accomplished boat builder and
has built a variety of Kayak's and Canoe's from kits but I wanted to ask
if any of you had any hints, tips, or tricks that might help me make a
great boat.  


Thanks,


Ed
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From: John Waddington <waddinj_at_recorder.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Pigmy Coho
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:21:11 -0400
Take a look at Nick Schade's Guillemot Kayak Builders' Bulletin
Board http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi where
there is lots of advice from others who have built, or are
currently building, wooden kayaks.  They are a good group with
lots of good advice about kit kayaks, strip made kayaks and skin
on frame kayaks.  The BB has archives just full of advice, or you
can ask a question on the BB at any time.

Ed Svoboda wrote:
> 
> I recently received my Pigmy Coho kit
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From: Jochen Grikschat <grikschat_at_web.de>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] VHF bags
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:22:28 +0200
Hi John,

> I have been using in a waterproof bag, despite the
> claims that it is submersible. The only bags available here in NZ are the
> Aquapac bags, but after having two leak, I feel it is time to change.
John, so far the bags isnīt leaking to much (only single trops and no puddle
is inside the bag, it should be no problem for a submersible VHF.

But whatīs the problem with Aquapac? Is it the lock or another damage in the
foil? Or might it be dewdrops?

I use the AQ small camera bag for my one and for my GPS (with the older
twist-lock (thicker one), and normally everything is okay.
For my handheld VHF, I use an easier bag from www.ewa-marine.de, because it
is much cheaper than AQ. (Aquapac is better). It got an easy sliding lock,
which donīt produce much pressure on the foil, but giveīs you quick access.
I use the same system for my cellphone as well and sometimes there are very
few drops inside t the lock, while stored on deck. Not perfect, but no
problem for me, yet. :-)
I carry my VHF in a bag on the backside at my inflatable PFD, the Cellphone
inside the boat.

I was looking around for some better solutions, especially for my handheld
parts of the Shipmate 8300 S/SOS (a 25W fixed VHF-station, which I use in my
double). The handheld parts arenīt waterproof at all, and only the newer
Aquapac small Whanganui bags fits.

all the best to NZ, the other side of the world
Jochen
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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] VHF bags
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:26:09 +1300
-But whatīs the problem with Aquapac? Is it the lock or another damage in
the
foil? Or might it be dewdrops?-

Thanks for the suggestions re dry bags for a VHF. My two Aquapacs (and
another I have seen) split open at the seams. A combination of material used
and design, I suspect, as the lanyard attachment places a lot of tension on
the bag.

Since the last one failed I have been using my VHF 520 sans bag. As a result
corrosion has started on the exposed screws, despite a wash after every
paddle. I should point out that I get wet every paddle. This is the reason
for deciding to go back to the bag. With no suggestions to the contrary, the
Boundary Bay Kayaks VHF Protector might be the one.

Must go, night has fallen and the sea beckons.

Cheers

John Kirk-Anderson
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] VHF bags
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:22:06 -0700
John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz> wrote:

> I'm after some advice, and you folk seem the logical people to ask. I use an
> Apelco VHF 520 which I have been using in a waterproof bag, despite the
> claims that it is submersible. The only bags available here in NZ are the
> Aquapac bags, but after having two leak, I feel it is time to change.

Up until a year ago I would have said "bosh!" to John's bad experience with
Aquapac VHF bags -- "must have been a couple of rare defectives."  I have used
them since 1996 on two non-submersible radios.

But, I have now had two different bags show __slight__ leakage, at the clip
closure, one relatively new, and one a 1996 purchase.  Neither has leaked from
a seam or puncture.  In both cases, it was very difficult to reproduce the
leakage in the warmth of my household.

I think the leaks come from two sources:

1. a weld failure near the clip -- fixable with some vinyl cement.  Demands a
very careflul inspection of the bag end.

2. poor sealing at the end of the clip -- more of a problem when the bags are
cold.

In any case, I use the bags nonetheless, 'cause I can't locate anything
better.  In the case of a submersible radio, I think the bags are plenty good
protection.

When the bags are stored at home, leave the clips off, so there is no
pre-established groove in the vinyl.

I looked at the Boundary Bay site, but could not tell much about their bags
from the pictures.  I could not tell what style of closure they use, either.  I
nice aspect is that the bags have D-rings for anchoring on deck.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddling in Spain
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:17:55 +1300
I will be in northern Spain in the later part of June, and wonder if any
Paddlewisers have any experience in that part of the world.

I will have just come from one month at sea kayak symposiums in the UK and
Ireland, doing BCU coaching courses, and I will be travelling with my wife,
a non-paddler. As a result, any chance to go paddling will be severely
curtailed, but I have been given a short leave-of-absence if the market
visits become overwhelming!

Any advice would be appreciated. My Spanish is non-existent.


-- 
John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
NEW ZEALAND

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From: Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Any open water on Superior between Duluth and Thunder Bay?
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:43:22 -0500
Is there any open water on Superior between Duluth and Thunder Bay? 
 (I've heard rumors that Duluth is open.)  I'm after access that does 
not include ice breaking or long shore walks (it is  very heavy canoe 
over forty feet long).  If you know of such access at water that is 
presently open, please drop me a line with specific directions to the 
put-in and a description of what the access and the open water is like 
at this time.  Thanks so much!

Cheers,
Richard Culpeper
culpeper_at_tbaytel.net

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