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From: Joyce, Thomas F. <TJoyce_at_bellboyd.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:39:17 -0500
Every year I spend inordinate amounts of time estimating distances on maps using dental floss, twist-its, wires, string, etc. Does anybody find "map odometers" (rulers with wheels) to be accurate?  If so, any suggestions on where to get them?

TFJ


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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:14:46 -0400
From: "Joyce, Thomas F." <TJoyce_at_bellboyd.com>

> Every year I spend inordinate amounts of time estimating distances on maps using 
> dental floss, twist-its, wires, string, etc. Does anybody find "map odometers" 
> (rulers with wheels) to be accurate?  

Mine is no more or less accurate than any other way of measuring, but it's a
tad finicky to use.  I'd guess there are better models on the market.  Mine
is a no-name device I got almost 25 years ago.

> If so, any suggestions on where to get them?

A good map store should have them.  This one looks decent and is made by a
reputable manufacturer.  Never used this one, so I'm not endorsing anything!

http://www.acornnaturalists.com/p9498.htm

Mike

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From: Sid Taylor <tayls_at_snowcrest.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:09:24 -0700
On a chart you can use longitude (not latitude, except equator) to measure
nautical miles (nm). A minute is a nm. Just use some dividers to walk-off
distances. Hell, use a piece of paper with tick marks. How precise do you
need to be? I often use fingers or any handy object. Those roller type
devices are ok when you're sitting at a desk. Do your float plan and use it
for reference.

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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 01:04:38 EDT
In a message dated 5/3/2002 10:10:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tayls_at_snowcrest.net writes:


> Do your float plan and use it
> for reference.
> 
Agreed. I often sit at my desk, lawn chair, crazy creek, barcolounger, et al, 
with the string and dividers, writing the distance on my chart, as per the 
intended route. I've not used a wheely thing. Do they work? Rob G.

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:16:25 -0400
From: "Joyce, Thomas F." <TJoyce_at_bellboyd.com>

> If so, any suggestions on where to get them?

Here's another if you want digital:
http://www.ewalker.com/adgear/gift.htm

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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:19:20 -0400
Every year I spend inordinate amounts of time estimating distances on maps
using dental floss, twist-its, wires, string, etc. Does anybody find "map
odometers" (rulers with wheels) to be accurate?  If so, any suggestions on
where to get them?


TFJ


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    I certainly get a lot of mileage out of mine...  On most topo maps at
1:24000 I'm generally within 1/4 mile of the true distance...   Running the
river subsequently with a gps receiver bears that out...  It's the readability
of the scale that's the limiting factor.  Error would be greater on a 1:63000
map, for example.


    Still, good enough for most work.





    I've seen them available at outdoor stores such as EMS in the NJ/NY area,
and I think they're in the CampMor catalog.  They can also be found in stores
that specialize in art & architecture.  Here in NJ that's Triangle Inc.  or
Pearl (which I think may have a website). They usually run about $7-$10 but
there are some snazzy ones with built in calculators that will run you up to
$100.





    If they have the maps for your area, you may want to look at the TOPO!
series of interactive maps on CDROM.  One of its features is the ability to
trace a path within the map with your mouse (and across different quads
automatically...) and have it report distance, vertical profile, etc.    





Joe P.





PS --- Your word for today:  Opisometer.   That's the original name for those
"map odometers".











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From: Chuck Holst <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Gauging Mileage on Maps
Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 14:54:06 -0500
Actually, it's the length of a minute of longitude that changes according 
to distance from the equator. Use minutes of latitude (on the vertical or 
north-south side of the chart) to measure distances on a chart.

Chuck Holst

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From:	Sid Taylor [SMTP:tayls_at_snowcrest.net]

On a chart you can use longitude (not latitude, except equator) to measure
nautical miles (nm). A minute is a nm. Just use some dividers to walk-off
distances. Hell, use a piece of paper with tick marks. How precise do you
need to be? I often use fingers or any handy object. Those roller type
devices are ok when you're sitting at a desk. Do your float plan and use it
for reference.


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