Re: [Paddlewise] Paddles & Newtonian Physics . . .

From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:26:00 -0400
Actually a car works like a spaceship too. It is just pushing the 
whole earth. Since the earth has more mass than your average rocket 
fuel it is not accelerated much. As a result the kinetic energy added 
to the earth by driving your car is not going to show up on many 
seismographs. Momentum is still conserved.

At 10:40 AM -0400 7/25/02, Coplan, Karl wrote:
>Nick,  doesn't your (and John's) analysis of "equal and opposite reactions"
>assume that a kayak paddle works more like a rocket engine than like the
>wheels of a car?  Rocket propulsion (based on Newtonian equal and opposite
>reactions) is not the only way to make a mass move forward; good old
>friction works well, too.  Your automobile moves forward quite well even
>though the tires are not pushing little bits of pavement backwards.
>Instead, the friction of the wheels against an immovable surface converts
>nearly all the energy applied to the wheels to the forward movement of the
>car (maybe the car gets a little more Newtonian if driven in sand!).  Rocket
>engines are much less efficient, since as much energy is imparting backwards
>momentum to particles of something as is going to moving your vehicle
>forward.
>
>I suspect that a kayak paddle works more like a hybrid between a car wheel
>(friction) and a rocket engine (Newtonian reactions).  Friction is good for
>these purposes, and the more friction between the paddle and the water (ie,
>the less slippage) the greater proportion of your paddle stroke energy will
>go to moving your kayak forward even without an Newtonian reactions.
>
>Paddling a kayak in outer space, of course would be a different matter.
>Since there is no water or atmosphere then to work against with friction,
>only a rocket engine works there.
>
>--Karl Coplan

-- 
Nick Schade
Guillemot Kayaks
824 Thompson St
Glastonbury, CT 06033
(860) 659-8847
***************************************************************************
PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed
here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire
responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author.
Submissions:     PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net
Subscriptions:   PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net
Website:         http://www.paddlewise.net/
***************************************************************************
Received on Fri Jul 26 2002 - 06:26:51 PDT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Thu Aug 21 2025 - 16:30:56 PDT