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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] FW: Sandals are they a hazard?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:57:18 +1000
G'Day,

	Thanks for all the safety advice - Points well taken. I won't consider
wearing sandals anymore (in the kayak).

All the best, PeterO


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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Witch Hunt Against Sandals? WAS Re: FW: Sandals are they a hazard?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:18:53 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "PeterO" <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
To: "'Paddlewise'" <Paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>
> Thanks for all the safety advice - Points well taken. I won't consider
> wearing sandals anymore (in the kayak).
>

Again, I think people are jumping to conclusions about sandals and
entrapment.  It is just certain sandals and certain types of pedals that are
a potential problem.

Yes, there have been cases of people getting their sandals caught on their
foot pedals.  Documented ones and not just urban legends.  Obviously even
one case can scare the beejeez out of paddlers and lead trip leaders into
blanket bans on wearing sandals.  But there have also been documented cases
of PFD straps getting caught on deck fittings on re-entry after a capsize,
zipper pulls getting undone when they catch on a fitting, etc.  I don't see
anyone saying no PFD straps nor zippers.

I have a Fujita folding kayak with Keeper pedals and did a test with Chaco
sandals just now in my living room with just the frame assembled.  Tried and
tried as I could, there was not even an inkling of potential entrapment on
any part of the sandals.  I could not even force the sandals into entrapment
by scootching forward and trying to force the foot and sandal with my hands
on to the Keepers pedal.  I even had my wife try to force any part of my
foot or sandal straps on to the pedal.  Nothing would get caught, not the
straps over the feet nor between the foot and footbed.  Tevas are another
matter.  I have not worn Tevas since the late 1980s but looking at them, I
can see where a potential entrapment may exist because of the spacing of the
straps that might allow certain kinds of pedals to slide in between the foot
and footbed on the lateral side of the foot (i.e. the outside).

My suggestion is that the next time you paddle and you happen to be a sandal
wearer, try on land to get the sandal caught either the straps or between
the foot and footbed.  Then report back here to PaddleWise with how a
particular brand of sandal faired vis-a-vis a particular type of pedal.
What's that saying about not throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Having some form of footgear is important to avoid getting cut from sharp
gravel and glass, broken beer cans, the lot.  Sandals provide a nice
solution with good support compared to neoprene booties.  And protection
from ground objects.  I was on a trip a few months ago with one leader who
was a definite "no sandals" philosophy and dictate.  I was only allowed to
go on the trip because I was in a folding kayak because he believes that
they don't have pedals (he didn't know it had :-)).  As we were all getting
ready to launch I suddenly saw him winch with pain.  He was wearing neoprene
booties and had stepped on something that went right through the sole and
into his foot causing profuse bleeding.  He needed first aid.  I bite my lip
in order not to make a wisecrack or comuppance statement but, boy, was it
tempting! :-)

As for walking with them, some sandals give excellent support for the arch
and foot.  I regularly manage to carry a folding kayak in its bag with
paddling gear while wearing Chacos and my weak arches do just fine.  I am
carrying about 45-50 pounds of boat and gear walking about a quarter of a
mile or more from launch site to a bus or taxi; and going up and down stairs
as well.  Ankle support is none existent but so too with running shoes and
certainly neoprene booties.

The only time I concede that I can't walk with just sandals is when I am
carrying the bagged boat, paddling gear AND camping gear and the total load
gets to about 80 pounds.  Then one needs a hiking boot for full support of
the ankle and foot.

ralph

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