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From: Bemis, Scott E. <SEBemis_at_bemis.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] NOAA announcement HIKERS AND OUTDOOR ADVENTURERS SAME SATELLITE PROTECTION AS PILOTS AND MARINERS
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:25:02 -0500
Regarding U.S.A. NOAA announcement at www.noaa.gov of 

HIKERS AND OUTDOOR ADVENTURERS TO HAVE SAME SATELLITE PROTECTION AS PILOTS
AND MARINERS;
NOAA AND ITS PARTNERS CELEBRATE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF INTERNATIONAL SEARCH AND
RESCUE SATELLITE AIDED TRACKING PROGRAM

and the full article http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s1055.htm

may I assume this is the equipment as EPIRBs that some of the sailing crowd
carries and uses infrequently?   A local newspaper stated these devices
would be starting at $300 and up.  

Where can one purchase a EPRIB for $300 that is reliable.  I had been
looking at boating stores as a curiosity last year  Their prices start
around $800 and up. 

And in the announcement   
            The action follows a highly successful experimental program that

           permitted the use of the 406 MHz Personal Locator Beacons carried
by hikers in Alaska

		What brands and models did the Alaskans use in this
experimental program?

There is a yet another gadget for next year (2003) at least for me. 

I will first need to decode the specification, type I, type II, class B.  I
assume any unit needs to transmit on the 406 MHz frequency.  There are units
on eBay that list other frequencies, but not 406 MHz. Since EPRIBs are
relatively expensive and I need to work on my kayak skills, I have not yet
traveled in the more remote areas.




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From: Scott <sc_at_gci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA announcement HIKERS AND OUTDOOR ADVENTURERS SAME SATELLITE PROTECTION AS PILOTS AND MARINERS
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:04:04 -0800
Regarding the 'hikers in Alaska' section of this...

I am a member of Alaska Mountain Rescue Group, and am unfamiliar with said
locaters and their collective use within the hiking community. I will ask
around the other Rescue folks and see if I can provide an answer.
One thing is for sure - if they work, the hikers up here should sure use
them much more frequently...as the population and 'extreme sport' crowd in
Alaska grows, so do the amount of hiking rescues. This is still a VERY
unforgiving state, and too many people wander out into the backcountry
woefully unprepared.

Scott Simpson
Anchorage Alaska

"There is always one more thing you can do to influence any situation"
Lt. Gen Harold Moore, USA (Ret)

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From: Jochen Grikschat <grikschat_at_web.de>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA announcement HIKERS AND OUTDOOR ADVENTURERS SAME SATELLITE PROTECTION AS PILOTS AND MARINERS
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:54:40 +0100
Hey,
check out http:\\www.cospas-sarsat.org
Itīs the side of this programm, the NOAA is part of it together with Russia,
France, Canada.

I would prefer the Fastfind (Plus) by McMurdo (scroll down to the end).

EPIRB only means Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon, other  type of
beacons are the ELTīs (emergency location transmiters) and PLBīs (personal
loc. beacons). The type (epirb, elt, plb) depends on how the beaacons are
coded (406) or on the transmitter-output (from few milliwatts up to 1-5
Watts). The size vary between "Champagner Magnum size" and normal
watch-format (newest ones by McMurdo). There is another system by
Inmarsat-E, but kind of extreme huge, only for bigger ships...

There are different Radio Beacons on the market, all are part of this
Cospas-Sarsat programm. The frequencies are 121,5, 243 and 406 Mhz. 121,5 is
the oldest, non-coded, for civil use and is fixed in almost every 406 Mhz
Beacon  as a "homing signal", it is not the idealst for location via satelit
but great for airplanes and SAR-ships.. 243 is the military frequence and
only in few beacons, its nearly the same like 121,5 but SAR-Unit only check
out the 121,5 in short range areas.
The 406 Mhz Beacons are the "newest" ones. On this frequence the beacons
became a unique code, so its possible to check out Whoīs the owner of the
beacon, which ship aso. Some newer and expensive beacons got a GPS option,
internal oder via external put-in, they use the newer satelites GEOSARīs,
also. The alarm time vary between 3 Min (via Geosar in most areas), 20-40
min (without GPS-Option) and up to 90 min (polar and less covered areas or
by worse weather).
Normally all beacons get located via Lowsar Satelites by Doppler effect
(satelite ground track), the 406 Mhz beacons are better because the
position, found by this Doppler effect is better than by 121,5 beacons. The
located are, found by sat. ground track vary from 1,5 up to 6nm (??).
If you can afford the money, take a 406 beacons, but never get the Plastimo
Kannad 406, its expensive trash. This beacons got no homing-signal, no
strobelight a onetime activation function, its cheapcheapcheap. Better and
more expensive are the ones by www.pwss.com and www.acrelectronics.com

A big problem was and still is for most countrys, you canīt use the 406
beacons as a PLB, would mean you donīt put in your MMSI code (from DSC VHF
transmitter), but a personal code, its great that Alaska is now on the way
for this option. Here in Germany you have to use the beacons as a EPRIB
(means for a ship, not for a single person) and you canīt be sure an alert,
positioned in mountains i.e. would start a SAR-action, because ships are
normally not to find in the mountains... and it would be illegal. Great
Britain got this option to, the use of a 406 beacon as a PLB, but it is
nearby illegal or impossible to get a personal code in Britain without
beeing british...
Here in Germany the authorities are unable to start up a data base (who
spends the money?? responsibilities??) so we canīt use these great new 406
Beaon from McMurdo Fastfind and Fatfind plus (ointernal GPS) in this great
paddler-size (784x146x485 mm) format, not bigger than a normal handheld VHF
!!

Further questions?
Hope my english is quite understandable :-))
bye
Jochen

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