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From: Keith Wrage <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:30:00 -0600
Maybe a silly question but...
I'm in 'chilly' Wisconsin - and we have a pool session lined up for this 
weekend.  Morning temps are around -4 F.  Plastic boats (CD Storm) should 
have any problems handling the cold, right?  I'm thinking on the rack en 
route to the pool.  I could just imagine a shattered kayak after a 
bump...pieces of yellow poly skittering along the shoulder...

As I said, I'm fairly certain this isn't a problem but figured it couldn't 
hurt to ask.

Thanks,
Keith

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From: Rev. Bob Carter <revkayak_at_aptalaska.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:26:19 -0900
    If you store your kayak inside where it is warmer and don't have far to
drive to the pool you should be ok. However I would be wary of either glass
or plastic exposed to those temps for a long drive especially on racks which
may allow the boat to flex.
    Also be careful loading and unloading at those temps, if you drop your
boat the plastic would be more prone to crack.
Plus on the way home the ice that forms inside your boat may loosen our
bulkheads.
Good luck
Bob


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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:22:02 +1300
 Rev. Bob Carter wrote:

>> I would be wary of either glass
or plastic exposed to those temps for a long drive especially on racks which
may allow the boat to flex.
Also be careful loading and unloading at those temps, if you drop your
boat the plastic would be more prone to crack.<<



You folk impress me with your dedication to paddling. I'd take up skiing for
the winter.

Cheers

John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
NEW ZEALAND

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From: Dan Harrison <DHARRISN_at_hfcc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:05:43 -0500
Keith:
I've paddled my Valley Avocet and Dagger Edisto (both poly) in subzero
temps, with no ill effects (on the boats, anyway-- does brain damage
count?).  Materials do begin to behave queerly when you get down below
-20oF.  Last night I was watching a PBS documentary on Scott's ill-fated
Antarctic expedition.  Their diaries record that around -35oF, the snow
acted like sand, and the sled runners could not glide at all.  Made our
local 'teens seem positively balmy.  Speaking of balmy, I plan to paddle
on Lake Michigan this weekend.  Grand Traverse Bay, to be exact.  I'll
let you know if the boat shatters.  Or my next of kin will.
Dan Harrison

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From: Dickson, Dana A. <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:48:01 -0600
Keith,

I use my Storm as my winter outdoor boat.  I have had not problems with it
in temperatures down to 5 above for outdoor paddling trips.  I have taken it
to pool sessions at below zero temps without ill effect on the boat.  

Dana

 > -----Original Message-----
 
 > 
 > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:30:00 -0600
 > From: Keith Wrage <>
 > Subject: 
 > 
 > Maybe a silly question but...
 > I'm in 'chilly' Wisconsin - and we have a pool session lined 
 > up for this 
 > weekend.  Morning temps are around -4 F.  Plastic boats (CD 
 > Storm) should 
 > have any problems handling the cold, right?  I'm thinking on 
 > the rack en 
 > route to the pool.  I could just imagine a shattered kayak after a 
 > bump...pieces of yellow poly skittering along the shoulder...
 > 
 > As I said, I'm fairly certain this isn't a problem but 
 > figured it couldn't 
 > hurt to ask.
 > 
 > Thanks,
 > Keith
 
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] plastic boats in extreme cold?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:16:35 -0500
From: "Dickson, Dana A." <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>

> Keith,
> 
> I use my Storm as my winter outdoor boat.  I have had not problems with it
> in temperatures down to 5 above for outdoor paddling trips.  I have taken it
> to pool sessions at below zero temps without ill effect on the boat.  


Don't forget as well that the fiberglass and plastics used in kayaks
are essentially the same as that used in skis (and ski bases).  I've 
used (abused) my rather light cross-country skis down to -30C and 
colder without any problems.  

Mike
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