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From: Jennifer Pivovar <kayak_at_headwinds.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trailers
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:47:54 -0800 (PST)
> ...We got a 4Runner.  When my wife and I went to pick up my
> new QCC 600 kayak from the terminal, the two of us had problems
> getting it on the rack.  We're both a little over 5'6" and we had a
> heck of a time loading and unloading.  Since she doesn't kayak I'm
> really concerned if I'll be able to do this by myself.  ...> 

Hi Rod,

While I do have a couple trailers that I haul multiple kayaks on for
shuttles, etc (one is homebuilt racks over a steel-deck trailer,
another is unauthorized rain gutter clips on a pop-up tent trailer), I
have another comment...

Before you think trailer, try a couple loading options onto your
4Runner first.  I have a QCC 600, am 5'7 (and not terribly macho) and
routinely load the thing by myself onto my wagon.  One thing - it's a
LOT easier loading the boat once you unpack it!  Loading the box onto
my car was indeed an experience.  

I put a carpet piece behind the car, rest the stern on it, and lever
the bow onto the rear glides (I use thule glides but the Yakima rollers
work as well).  Then I pick up the stern and slide it into place.  This
works for any vehicle that you can get the rear bar far enough back. 
To make it even easier, you can get a bar extender for the rear bar as
a place to rest the bow while you're loading.  I can actually load it
w/o using the stern rest _before_ the paddle, but after, well, I use
the carpet.  This is way more convenient that hooking up a trailer,
IMHO.

enjoy your QCC
Jennifer
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From: al.m <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trailers
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:38:48 -0800
> I put a carpet piece behind the car, rest the stern on it, and lever
> the bow onto the rear glides (I use thule glides but the Yakima rollers
> work as well).  Then I pick up the stern and slide it into place.  This
> works for any vehicle that you can get the rear bar far enough back.
> To make it even easier, you can get a bar extender for the rear bar as
> a place to rest the bow while you're loading.

Bar extender is really worth trying, on any vehicle.  I've got sedan, so
can't push my plastic Prijon straight from rear (58 lbs).  But with
extention bar (at the driver's seat) I align kayk along the side of the car,
lift the bow first, then goes the stern.  I'm using Thule rack with saddles
in front and rollers at rear bar, though in my case I could use saddles on
rear bar as well.  Just remove plasic end cap, and shove extention rod in.
I've bough a 3ft steel rod for $ 6 at Home Depot and wrapped some felt
around half of its length; you may buy "extention bar" from Yakima or Thule
as well.  What I can't figure out, is how much weight I'm lifting at thew
stern, when the bow is already on the bar.  Should be a little less then
full 58 lbs, but more than half-weight, because the bow is higher at the
initial stage of stern lifting, or am I wrong?
Alex.

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