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From: PJ Rattenbury <ratten_at_uow.edu.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Wet Suits in Coldwater
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:42:09 +1100
Rob,  Your question was about correct wearing of a WETsuit in cold water
conditions.
My understanding is this:

Wetsuits were designed to work when they are WET.  They were not made to
work dry, out of water.
I wear a thin cotton garment UNDER my wetsuit. This ENHANCES the wetsuits
inherent ability to trap a thin layer of water next to the skin, and SLOW
the flushing of this warm water and hence cooling of the body.
This is the ONLY time I wear cotton on the water.  And in cold, wet
conditions, the undergarment also enhances the warmth retaining qualitities
of a wetsuit once you are OUT of the water.  But only if you keep the
wetsuit ON , until you change into dry clothes.
Cotton is a killer if it is wet and exposed to wind.  Inside a wetsuit,  you
put its water retention qualities to good use.
A breathable windproof OVER a wetsuit may be appropriate in cold AIR
temperatures.
Many folks now use more 'technical' clothing instead of cotton, under their
wetsuit, but these are all designed to wick moisture off the skin's surface.
If I was to use something other than cotton I would go to the new superfine,
superthin Merino wool technology.  A number of NZ/Aust. Companies make these
garments.  They are hard wearing, super comfortable and don't stink when
they get wet and dirty.  I can provide trade names of these companies if you
wish. No commercial ties.
My O.O2c worth.
Cheers, Peter Rattenbury
Wollongong, NSW


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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wet Suits in Coldwater
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:26:56 EST
In a message dated 3/12/2003 4:42:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
ratten_at_uow.edu.au writes:


> This ENHANCES the wetsuits
> inherent ability to trap a thin layer of water next to the skin, and SLOW
> the flushing of this warm water and hence cooling of the body.
> This is the ONLY time I wear cotton on the water.  And in cold, wet
> conditions, the undergarment also enhances the warmth retaining qualitities
> of a wetsuit once you are OUT of the water.  


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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wet Suits in Coldwater
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:31:40 EST
In a message dated 3/12/2003 4:42:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
ratten_at_uow.edu.au writes:


> This ENHANCES the wetsuits
> inherent ability to trap a thin layer of water next to the skin, and SLOW
> the flushing of this warm water and hence cooling of the body.
> This is the ONLY time I wear cotton on the water.  And in cold, wet
> conditions, the undergarment also enhances the warmth retaining qualitities
> of a wetsuit once you are OUT of the water.  

I wear a thin lycra-spandexy kind of thing under my farmer john and it serves 
well for warmth, immersion, etc. However, I almost always wear it with a dry 
top so I've really only been swimming with it once or twice. I believe the 
theory that it does aid in trapping water flow as is suggested above. I'm 
looking forward to non-drysuit weather! The water here was 46 degrees last 
weekend:yip.

Rob G
Gig Harbor, WA

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From: Gary J. MacDonald <garyj_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wet Suits in Coldwater
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:10:57 -0500
Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote:
> I'm 
> looking forward to non-drysuit weather! The water here was 46 degrees last 
> weekend:yip.

At least you don't need a chainsaw or a jackhammer like we do here.

GaryJ
-- 
Director, Family Canoeing Centre
Recreational canoeing courses for the whole family.

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wet Suits in Coldwater
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:36:05 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "PJ Rattenbury" <ratten_at_uow.edu.au>>
.
> I wear a thin cotton garment UNDER my wetsuit. This ENHANCES the wetsuits
> inherent ability to trap a thin layer of water next to the skin, and SLOW
> the flushing of this warm water and hence cooling of the body.SNIPPED>
Cotton is a killer if it is wet and exposed to wind.  Inside a wetsuit,  you
> put its water retention qualities to good use.
> A breathable windproof OVER a wetsuit may be appropriate in cold AIR
> temperatures.
> Many folks now use more 'technical' clothing instead of cotton, under
their
> wetsuit, but these are all designed to wick moisture off the skin's
surface.
> If I was to use something other than cotton I would go to the new
superfine,
> superthin Merino wool technology.

Fascinating stuff about cotton.  Who would have thought this.  Regarding the
wool...sounds fine.  But I had an interesting experience with wool under a
dry suit. It got quite wet wearing a wool sweater as an experiment (and I
still was warm) but the sweater stretched out til it reached almost down to
my knees!!

ralph diaz

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