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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Broze's deck bag roll
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:09:37 -0700
I was talking to the Watershed rep a couple of days ago and decided to throw
an idea I gave him into the public domain before it gets patented by
someone. Maybe Tim Sp*ns*nman Ingram has just made me more paranoid about
such things. My idea was to make a watertight deck bag that can be easily
yanked free from its deck position (by a capsized paddler) and used to do a
"Float Roll" by the paddler. (for those who don't know what it is, the
"Float Roll" is described in the Manual for the Rescue Float Plus on our
website). The deck bag could also be set up to double as a paddlefloat if
the paddler failed to roll (with paddle, hand, or float) and exited the
cockpit after capsizing. I envision a bag that is fairly streamlined so as
to not interfere with ones paddle stroke  (like so many foredeck bags do)
but with enough volume to provide about a quarter cubic foot of flotation
(16 pounds) even if packed with the normal day gear and snacks that are
often kept in such a bag. I'd like to see a handle or a reasonably secure
way to grip the bag and a shock cord tether (that would be long enough to
leave attached to the kayak in a paddlefloat rescue situation). The tether
would serve to prevent the bags loss if the capsize victim inadvertently let
go of it once it had been pulled free of the deck. Maybe it would store
under the bow deck bungies or maybe a quick release buckle could be released
to allow it to slide back out of its moorings or case and into use to
perform a "Float Roll".  something that hold the bags shape when empty (so
it will always have enough buoyancy) would seem to be needed. I am
renouncing all rights of exclusivity to this idea. Anyone, including
Watershed, who wants should feel free to use my idea and try to make a
superior product and profit from it. Let the competition begin.

Matt Broze
www.marinerkayaks.com

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From: firefly <firefly_at_eatel.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Broze's deck bag roll
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 07:36:59 -0500
The day that the Space Shuttle exploded, I was working on something like
this, but it was just a float without the bag. I got the idea from Clas in
Finland, who is a member of this group. He actually took the trouble to
snail mail me the instructions and photos, all the way from Finland. I made
it out of closed cell foam, using a glue gun, reinforced by sewing all
around the edges. I made it WAY too big and ended up cutting it in half
lengthwise. I took it out on my boat about twice but it takes up a lot of
room on my foredeck. I have a rolling lesson scheduled for next weekend and
plan to try it then, just to see if it works. If it is easy to use, I may
make room for it on my foredeck, despite the space it takes up.
Marsanne


> I was talking to the Watershed rep a couple of days ago and decided to
throw
> an idea I gave him into the public domain before it gets patented by
> someone. Maybe Tim Sp*ns*nman Ingram has just made me more paranoid about
> such things. My idea was to make a watertight deck bag that can be easily
> yanked free from its deck position (by a capsized paddler) and used to do
a
> "Float Roll" by the paddler. (for those who don't know what it is, the
> "Float Roll" is described in the Manual for the Rescue Float Plus on our
> website). The deck bag could also be set up to double as a paddlefloat if
> the paddler failed to roll (with paddle, hand, or float) and exited the
> cockpit after capsizing. I envision a bag that is fairly streamlined so as
> to not interfere with ones paddle stroke  (like so many foredeck bags do)
> but with enough volume to provide about a quarter cubic foot of flotation
> (16 pounds) even if packed with the normal day gear and snacks that are
> often kept in such a bag. I'd like to see a handle or a reasonably secure
> way to grip the bag and a shock cord tether (that would be long enough to
> leave attached to the kayak in a paddlefloat rescue situation). The tether
> would serve to prevent the bags loss if the capsize victim inadvertently
let
> go of it once it had been pulled free of the deck. Maybe it would store
> under the bow deck bungies or maybe a quick release buckle could be
released
> to allow it to slide back out of its moorings or case and into use to
> perform a "Float Roll".  something that hold the bags shape when empty (so
> it will always have enough buoyancy) would seem to be needed. I am
> renouncing all rights of exclusivity to this idea. Anyone, including
> Watershed, who wants should feel free to use my idea and try to make a
> superior product and profit from it. Let the competition begin.
>
> Matt Broze
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