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From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_netaccess.co.nz>
subject: [Paddlewise] getting list email while travelling
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:30:26 +1200
I'm off travelling in a couple of weeks and need an email account. I was
going to go with Hotmail, but I recall a discussion on this forum about
other, better, services. Does anyone remember that or have suggestions? Back
channel is probably appropriate.

What's the paddling link? I'm going to the Irish, the Anglessey, and the
Scottish Sea Kayak Symposium's, all in the same month. Between those events
and four BCU courses between them, it should be a great time.

Cheers


-- 
John Kirk-Anderson
Banks Peninsula
NEW ZEALAND

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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] getting list email while travelling
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:20:46 -0800
On Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:30:26 +1200, "John Kirk-Anderson"
<jka_at_netaccess.co.nz> said:
> I'm off travelling in a couple of weeks and need an email account. I was
> going to go with Hotmail, but I recall a discussion on this forum about
> other, better, services. Does anyone remember that or have suggestions?
> Back channel is probably appropriate.

I've grown to loath hotmail and msn, I moved my rant lower so people
could skip it.

I've got web based email accounts with, in order of preference,
fastmail.fm, mail.yahoo.com, arabia.com, and mail.com.   

I'm using the fastmail based account now.  The interface has no graphics,
no pop ups, no pop unders, and
for a 1 time joining fee no tag line.  They've got a 10 meg folder size
for the free account.  For small amounts of money there are more options,
like spam picking up from your old hotmail account.  Their servers have
only been inaccessible twice since I started using them 6+ months ago.  I
coughed up some of my own money to upgrade my account there, to get smtp
access while travelling.  Several other paddlewise/baidarka mailing list
subscribers have moved there, I've yet to receive hate mail from them for
the suggestion.

Mail.com is the most annoying, they have a single pop under for each
email item that gets deleted.

<rant> I regularly get bounces for subscribers who are based at hotmail
and msn
there.  The bounce comes in with no explanation at all.  Just "delivery
failed."  Hotmail also
has a 2 meg total email limit, that's just not a useful limit for getting
a mailing list.  Please,
please, please don't subscribe to paddlewise with a hotmail account.  My
tolerance for user problems 
for those with a hotmail account is warn at the first failure then blow
away the subscription, it's
just not worth the amount of administrator overhead to have hotmail/msn
based subscribers. <end rant>

Kirk
showing my mailing list administrators bias.
-- 
  Kirk Olsen
  kork4_at_cluemail.com
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From: David Flory <daflory_at_pacbell.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] A blast from my past
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:53:52 -0700
I just stumbled across the site below, which was a real blast from my  
past. My first paddle boats were two 1972 Royaks, which I used for free  
and SCUBA diving. (My six year old daughter had a ball paddling around  
Lake of the Woods, above Klamath Falls, Oregon on their first water  
trip.) It was my memories of fun on the water paddling to the dive  
sites that got me into Kayaking 4 years ago. Kayak history buffs might  
enjoy the history data including pictures of the first SOT, made from  
an aluminum aircraft wing tank. (Can you believe they actually make  
one, today, with a battery powered stereo or a blender? Aren't some  
water people interesting!)

Fair winds and happy bytes, Dave Flory

http://www.royak.com/index.shtml
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