Paddlewisers, I just heard from a reliable source about a pair of brand new British heavies that were "crumpled" in Southern California. The kayaks had been in the sun on a moderately warm day with the hatches on, and when they were placed in the water, usually about 59 degrees Fahrenheit this time of year, they "crumpled." I didn't clarify with my source what was meant by "crumpled," but I was told the kayaks were being replaced by the manufacturer. I don't think the fact that the kayaks were British really had much to do with it, but I as a North American, I just had to include that information. More important was that the kayaks had black gelcoat! I guess the lesson here is don't buy a black composite kayak were there is a possibility of the sun shining. That or buy "plastic, plastic, plastic!" Sorry, I could resist that last sentence. Duane Strosaker Southern California www.rollordrown.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Strosaker wrote: > > [...] buy "plastic, plastic, plastic!" Sorry, I could resist > that last sentence. > Duane is right: This can not happen to any plastic kayak I know, simply because the hatches don't seal that well. Niels, who is very happy with his new plastic boat. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] A balck plastic boat would also distort under a heavy sun, due primarily o the black and would stay bent in whatever position it was resting. Rafael. Quoting Niels Blaauw <niels.blaauw_at_wanadoo.nl>: > Strosaker wrote: > > > > [...] buy "plastic, plastic, plastic!" Sorry, I could resist > > that last sentence. > > > > Duane is right: This can not happen to any plastic kayak I know, simply > because the hatches don't seal that well. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sounds to me like a testimonial to the tightness of the hatch covers. I have to say, though, that neither my wife's nor my white Romany has crumpled like that, and we have paddled Lake Superior on some pretty hot days. Typically the hatch cover just sucks in a lot. Is it possible those "heavies" were an atypical lightweight layup? Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Is it possible those > "heavies" were an atypical lightweight layup? > > Chuck Holst Chuck and All, About a month ago I met the couple who had the kayaks. I don't remember if they mentioned what type of lay-up they had. But I did ask about the keel strips they had installed, and they said they ordered the keel strips for extra durability. I didn't ask them more about the kayaks, because they were undamaged at that point. They were really into the BCU program and talked about the well known 5 star paddlers who they had classes from all over the country. They even bought the kayaks for the specific purpose of going through the BCU training and assessments. They chose this particular manufacturer and model, because it was the one most of their coaches were using. They were extremely well equipped. Again, I don't think the damage really had anything to do with the kayaks being British, which is why I am not naming the manufacturer and model. It was probably just the black colored gelcoat causing a temperature problem. Duane *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Strosaker" <strosaker_at_cox.net> > I guess the lesson > here is don't buy a black composite kayak were there is a possibility of the > sun shining. That or buy "plastic, plastic, plastic!" Duane, As someone who paddles a glass boat (I think that Boreal Designs boat of yours is glass), you know that a small vent hole in the bulkheads would eliminate the problem. If someone doesn't want to drill holes in the bulkheads, they could also follow your lead and drill scupper holes in the hull to allow the seat to drain. ;-) Glass is still king!!!! ;-) Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have a question. The incredible hunderd mile mark achieved by Duane was made on a plastic boat? Rafael > > I don't think the fact that the kayaks were British really had much to do > with it, but I as a North American, I just had to include that information. > More important was that the kayaks had black gelcoat! I guess the lesson > here is don't buy a black composite kayak were there is a possibility of the > sun shining. That or buy "plastic, plastic, plastic!" Sorry, I could resist > that last sentence. > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > ------------------------------------------------------------ Este correo fue enviado utilizando el servicio IMP para CIATEQ http://www.horde.org/imp *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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