[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] The analogy works better for the propeller of an airplane or helicopter where the propulsive force is more obvious, especially when compared to a Greenland paddle. Greenland paddles require a significant and obvious slicing motion to prevent cavitation (flow separation?). An even better example is a bird wing during vertical or near vertical takeoff. Fast birds with relatively high aspect ratio low camber wings, such as doves, don't do that well on takeoff where there is a need to generate high lift at low speeds (high angle of attack). Slow birds such as quail with low aspect ratio high camber wings do extremely well in that flight regime. Any bird hunter knows that shooting a dove during takeoff is not even good sport, but hitting a quail in the same circumstance is quite challenging. Steve Brown -----Original Message----- From: Dave Gorjup Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise [wing theory] Let me preface this by saying I'm a fixed wing pilot and a helicopter crew chief with several thousand hours flight time. I also spent several years supporting wind tunnel operations testing aircraft and spacecraft in another lifetime. That said, I'm having a terrible time trying to relate the operation of an aircraft wing or helicopter blade to the functionality of any kind of paddle. In my mind, wings generate lift by orienting them to present the least planform to the medium it's moving through, in most cases. Paddles must present the maximum planform to generate the most resultant force to the kayak and paddler. Can anyone point me to a very basic source of information or theory, preferably web based, that can get me somewhere in the neighborhood of what you people are talking about? Looking at the movies that someone provided a link for earlier did nothing to alleviate my confusion. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Jun 10 2003 - 18:58:01 PDT
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