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From: Holmes <gholmes_at_vcn.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bears
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:09:14 -0600
> > > I agree with your post.  Many of us rely too much upon armchair
> > > writers who express theory as compared to reality.  The behaviour and
> > > practices of the locals are always the best illustration and guide for
> > > any specific region.
> >
> > Kindly back up you suggestion that Herrero is just an armchair
> > writer.
> >
> > Local traditions based on superstition and other beliefs hardly
> > constitutes knowledge.
> >
> > Mike

Wasn't specifically targeting an author, rather speaking in general with
regard to published material upon this topic.

Species specific ethology can vary from one geographical region to another.
This is only one area where local input and guidance can be invaluable.

I am usually capable of discerning superstitition-based tradition from real
world advice and comment.  My statement, 'always the best', was a bit
inclusive and would be better expressed as 'worthy of serious
consideration'.

Holmes
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bears
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:12:35 -0400
On 27 Jun 2003 at 9:09, Holmes wrote:

> Wasn't specifically targeting an author, rather speaking in general
> with regard to published material upon this topic.

Herrero was the only author specified by name.  No other references 
have been given.  Please keep the strawmen out of the discussion, as 
they don't contribute any value.

> Species specific ethology can vary from one geographical region to
> another. This is only one area where local input and guidance can be
> invaluable.

We're discussing bears and kayaking.  Please provide a reference 
where bear behavior that is significant to our discusson has shown 
regional behavioral differences.  In all what I've learned about 
bears, regional differences are insignificant.  The only differences 
that are significant are whether the bear population is truly wild or 
whether they are habituated to humans in their territory.  This, 
however, isn't a regional difference but a difference in contact.  
Bears that wander into Jasper tend to do the same things as bears 
that wander into Temagami, even though they're thousands of 
kilometers apart.

Mike
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