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From: <bobvolin_at_optonline.net>
subject: Re:[Paddlewise] Numb Legs(Peg Legging)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:11:31 -0400
<<Major SNIP>

> I think that many 
> paddler'snumb legs are due to pinching a major nerve between your 
> butt bones and your
> kayaks seat. Anything that takes much of the pressure off that 
> area will
> help. sharing the load between your thighs and butt is one way to 
> lessen the
> pressure.....

<<more major snip>>

> Now, can anybody tell me why my toes sometimes want to fall asleep 
> whenpaddling? It feels as though I may be pinching a nerve in the 
> ball of my
> foot when pushing on the footpedals a lot. That lack of wiggle 
> room for my
> size twelve feet might be a contributing factor as well. I paddled an
> especially low kayak barefoot the other day because that was about 
> the only
> way my feet would fit in it at all comfortably. That reminded me 
> that the
> pressure between my heel and the kayaks hull may also pinch a 
> nerve there.
> Some paddling shoes also seem to put too much pressure on a nerve 
> at the
> heel and some don't, maybe by cradling the heel better.
> 

You have it right.  Whether it's butt or heel, or ball of the foot, the root of the problem is pressure. Not just pressure on a nerve, but pressure that affects blood circulation.  Too much pressure over a long time results in decreased circulation -- that's why cycling the legs while paddling is good for the paddler as well as good for stroke efficiency: cycling relieves pressure and enhances circulation.
 I too have large-ish feet, and in certain boats my feet suffer.  The solution, which has to be individualized, is to outfit the boat so that you can maintain good contact for control while distributing physical pressure as broadly as possible.
  When you're paddling a boat that is not your own, portable seat padding can be had with a small therma-rest pad, partially inflated.  Foot padding is probably best accomplished by finding paddling shoes with firm soles and good heel protection (and if you know of such shoes, please let me know -- back channel if you don't want to seem to advertise).

Cheers (with a tip o' the hat to Jackie for the greeting...)
    Bob V

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re:[Paddlewise] Footwear was: Numb Legs(Peg Legging)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:02:00 -0400
On 2 Jul 2003 at 14:11, bobvolin_at_optonline.net wrote:

>    Foot padding is probably best accomplished by finding paddling
>   shoes with firm soles and good heel protection (and if you know of
>   such shoes, please let me know 

Me too - so make it public, please.

I recently tried on the 5-10 shoes.  They didn't make my size (13) 
until recently and 12 was too tight.  The running-shoe-like ones were 
good, except the heel was so thick/high that I knew I'd have trouble 
getting them to fit into my kayak. The soles were also quite stiff. 
Other than that, they seemed nice.  The higher ones with the slipper-
like sole would fit the kayak better, but offered no support or 
protection when walking compared to no-name reef boots.  I also tried 
these barefoot and found that the seams were proud and irritating.  
No way I'd buy these.  

So far the ideal running-shoe style water shoe still doesn't exist.  
I want something like the 5-10 with a much less bulky heel and a bit 
more flex in the sole.  

Other brands I've looked at have drawbacks like:

- Too much open space that lets in sand/gravel without letting it 
out.
- Soles that are slicker than owlshit on wet surfaces.
- Too much neoprene, so when you get wet, your feet stay soaked all 
day.
- Laces - give me buckles (even velcro beats laces) 
- Not sold anywhere near where I live.

The ideal shoe:
- Fine mesh that keeps out all but very fine sand and still allows 
your feet to dry some during the day.
- decent heel cup/counter so you feel like you have a good shoe on.
- Sticky soles (I don't care if they wear out relatively fast as long 
as replacement sole material is readily available and I just rip off 
the old and glue on the new).
- Buckles or some such so you don't have laces hanging everywhere.
- Soles that are relatively thin yet stiff enough to prevent rocks 
and stuff from making you "ouch" when walking.  Flex in the forefoot 
so you can walk or flex your foot easily in the kayak.
- Construction that makes them feel good when worn barefoot, No 
scratchies, itchies, pinpricks or blistermakers.

Every maker provide some of these features - I'm looking for all of 
them.

Mike

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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:36:08 -0400
Michael Daly wrote:
> On 2 Jul 2003 at 14:11, bobvolin_at_optonline.net wrote:
> 
>>   Foot padding is probably best accomplished by finding paddling
>>  shoes with firm soles and good heel protection (and if you know of
>>  such shoes, please let me know 
> 
> Me too - so make it public, please.

I've already sent this to Bob. I've got a pair I bought from Coastal Expeditions 
in Charleston, SC (http://www.coastalexpeditions.com/) for $15. They don't do 
much mail order, and certainly no web ordering, but you could call them. 
843-884-7684.

Really durable walking-on-oysters-climbing-on-rocks shoes. I haven't had any 
heel pain since I got them. I bought the size 12s, which fit in my Latitude but 
not my WW boat (and I've got a sensible sized WW boat). They've got a couple of 
styles, but no brand names. Mine are blue with yellow highlights.

-- 
Steve Cramer
Athens, GA

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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:19:22 EST
Second the endorsement on the Chacos.  I have had my original Geckos --- the predecessor of Chacos, and the baseline design, before the line was sold --- for about eight years.  Re-soled by Chaco, and are good for another few lives.  They're almost as comfortable as Birks, they won't flush off your feet in a hydraulic, and they leave really interesting tan lines when you use them all summer.

The only caution in using any kind of sandal in kayaking --- especially, I guess, one as reliable and retainable as Chacos --- is to watch for potential foot entrapment.  A strap could hang up on a foot peg or rudder pedal, if you have such things, or under the edge of a raised seat, and really make a mess out of a wet exit.  And out of you.

Jack Martin
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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:45:00 EST
In a message dated 2/13/00 12:06:24 PM, sheeres_at_net-link.net writes:

<< What are the various sandals in use out there for land and water use.
Please give reason for your enthusiasm. I am looking for brand names,
how they wear, how long they wear, etc. >>

I use the Tiva sandals and love them. They have held up to everything I could 
throw at them. The only hesitation I have is the velcro isn't marine quality 
as far as I can tell and velcro of any quality picks up grit.
    I love the sandals but I have moved to keeping $5.00 beach shoes with me 
because sandals can be a bear to walk around in if there are things you have 
to wade through like sticks and leaves and sharp gravel. The beach shoes are 
the ones with the web top and some kind of plastic/rubber sole. I don't worry 
about what I'm going to step on when I wade in the water to get in/out of the 
boat.

Joan Spinner
Who FINALLY got out on the river to 
paddle.
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From: Arthur Hebert <seacajun_at_gs.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:00:44 -0600
I purchased my first pair of Chacos last October, love um.
Note; I do not wear the sandals while paddling.

Robert wrote;

>I always worry about stumping my toes in sandals.  Or worse,  cutting my
>feet.  I have even seen folks kayaking barefooted.  Seems to be a risk to
>me.
>


Ok I'll fess up, I cut the side of my foot about six weeks ago.  This happen
during launching, on what I appeared to be a clean beach, wrong. A rather
serious cut that bleed like a stuck pig.  At least I did something right and
had my firstaid  kit with me.
Four stitches and six weeks later I'm just feeling like a fool (I felt
foolish the moment it happen).  I am someone that will wear my neoprene
booties in ninety degree weather.  Seriously, I wear foot protection 99.9%
of the time.  After informing a friend about the accident he  stated he
never knew me not to have foot protection.  The day I cut my foot  the
thought of injury did not even cross my mind.  Ya know the old saying, "it
only takes one time".  You ain't gonna catch me without foot protection
again.   Lesson relearned!
Arthur Hebert

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From: <tfj_at_interaccess.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:11:02 -0600
I get my Seasoned Kayak Footwear in the following manner.  When my feet start to
hurt in a certain way running, I know it's time to buy new Running Shoes (Reebok
$25).  The old ones then get recycled into my General Purpose Hanging Around
Shoes (Outside and Inside).   The former GPHAS then get recycled into GPHAS
(Inside Only)--basically slippers that feel very, very comfortable and don't
have to be laced to stay on my feet.  Then the old GPHAS (Inside Only) are
recycled into Seasoned Kayak Footwear by being thrown into the garage pending
paddle bag transfer.  They effectively prevent stubbed toes, sandal entrapment,
and basically all other complications of having the wrong thing on your feet in
a kayak.  If I have to portage through irredeemably vile swamp in them, it's no
loss.  Sand, sharp rocks, rot, surf accidents may eventually do them in, but by
that time I've got a couple of backup GPHAS queued up.



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From: Kirby Stevens <stevens_at_islandnet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:58:16 -0800
I would recommend getting the teva's that have the buckle.   They stand up much  better than the velcro.    

K.Stevens



Coastal Waters Recreation
Victoria, B.C.
Website: http://www.coastalwatersrec.com/maps/

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In a message dated 2/13/00 12:06:24 PM, sheeres_at_net-link.net writes:

<< What are the various sandals in use out there for land and water use.
Please give reason for your enthusiasm. I am looking for brand names,
how they wear, how long they wear, etc. >>

I use the Tiva sandals and love them. They have held up to everything I could 
throw at them. The only hesitation I have is the velcro isn't marine quality 
as far as I can tell and velcro of any quality picks up grit.
    I love the sandals but I have moved to keeping $5.00 beach shoes with me 
because sandals can be a bear to walk around in if there are things you have 
to wade through like sticks and leaves and sharp gravel. The beach shoes are 
the ones with the web top and some kind of plastic/rubber sole. I don't worry 
about what I'm going to step on when I wade in the water to get in/out of the 
boat.

Joan Spinner
Who FINALLY got out on the river to 
paddle.
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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:07:18 EST
Kirby wrote, "I would recommend getting the teva's that have the buckle.   They stand up much  better than the velcro."

My son, a professional whitewater guide, maintains that there's at least one Velcro-fastened sandal in the bottom of every major and minor hole on every piece of paddle-able whitewater in the world.  The stuff is good for kids' sneakers, but not for keeping something important attached to your foot.

Jack


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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:32:42 -0900
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Heeres [mailto:sheeres_at_net-link.net]
> 
> We are about to embark on a season of canoeing, canoe camping 
> and river
> (not whitewater) kayaking.
> 
> After looking through many magazines and photographs, it seems most
> people wear sandals. That is my first thought also, mostly because of
> the land and water usage.
> 
> My question is this:
> 
> What are the various sandals in use out there for land and water use.
> Please give reason for your enthusiasm. I am looking for brand names,
> how they wear, how long they wear, etc.
> 
 Sandals are one step up from going barefoot.  They can be very comfortable
and convenient to wear when in "amphibious" mode, but the don't really offer
a lot of protection from the elements (cold) or the hard stuff - rocks,
sticks, claws and teeth.
There have been times when small pieces of gravel have lodged between the
sole of my foot and the footbed of my Tevas.  OUCH.  I've stubbed and cut
toes while both barefoot and sandaled.  Sandals are safer than going
barefoot, but not much.
  All of which leads to my thought that my feet deserve to be protected -
and, at least where I live, boots seem to offer the best protection.  A
medium weight wet shoe (like the NRS ATB) does admirable duty when on the
water and a pair of medium weight hikers take care of shore-bound tasks.  My
Tevas are great for kicking around town (especially with a pair of high
fashion fleece socks<grin>), but I don't wear them "in the bush".
  Any injury outdoors, away from the convenience of quick, professional
medical attention, is something to be avoided.  Don't just follow the
example of pictures that you see in various paddling magazines to make your
paddling footwear choices - evaluate your environment, climate, planned
activities, and the myriad possibilities for "unplanned adventures" (ie.
emergencies).

Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska



  
  
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From: Michael Bradley <kobra_at_interlinx.qc.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:07:21 -0400
I was in my local 'Gimme-all-your-cash' outdoor shop yesterday and there, on
the shelf beckoning me in their direction were a pair of neat Teva 'running
shoes' with little mesh inserts along the sides for letting the water run out
(and the sand in?). Anyway, they seemed to be an interesting answer to the
need-more-sandal without going the too-much-shoe-to paddle-in problem.

Anyone tried these things? No, I didn't buy, I'll shop around a bit first...
*LOL*

Michael Bradley

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From: Dan Hagen <dan_at_hagen.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:59:16 -0800
David Seng wrote:

> Sandals are one step up from going barefoot.  They can be very comfortable
> and convenient to wear when in "amphibious" mode, but the don't really offer
> a lot of protection from the elements (cold) or the hard stuff ...
> There have been times when small pieces of gravel have lodged between the
> sole of my foot and the footbed of my Tevas.  OUCH.  I've stubbed and cut
> toes while both barefoot and sandaled.  ...<snip>...  A
> medium weight wet shoe (like the NRS ATB) does admirable duty when on the
> water and a pair of medium weight hikers take care of shore-bound tasks.  

I couldn't agree more. I really wanted to like my Tevas, but they just
don't provide much protection. Getting gravel and shell fragments
between my foot and the sandal is the worst problem. I just don't
understand why people prefer these things to the many superior
alternatives. Of course they are more fashionable than heavy-duty
neoprene boots, but for the areas in which I paddle they are
functionally deficient. As always, YMMV.

Dan Hagen
Bellingham, Washington
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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:35:38 -0500
In addition to Dave's excellent advice, I want to point out the risk of
the sandle catching on the footpegs.  I quit wearing my Tevas to paddle
in when that happened to me.

Joan

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:32:42 -0900 David Seng <David_at_wainet.com> writes:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stan Heeres [mailto:sheeres_at_net-link.net]
> > 
> > We are about to embark on a season of canoeing, canoe camping 
> > and river
> > (not whitewater) kayaking.
> > 
> > After looking through many magazines and photographs, it seems 
> most
> > people wear sandals. That is my first thought also, mostly because 
> of
> > the land and water usage.
> > 
> > My question is this:
> > 
> > What are the various sandals in use out there for land and water 
> use.
> > Please give reason for your enthusiasm. I am looking for brand 
> names,
> > how they wear, how long they wear, etc.
> > 
>  Sandals are one step up from going barefoot.  They can be very 
> comfortable
> and convenient to wear when in "amphibious" mode, but the don't 
> really offer
> a lot of protection from the elements (cold) or the hard stuff - 
> rocks,
> sticks, claws and teeth.
> There have been times when small pieces of gravel have lodged 
> between the
> sole of my foot and the footbed of my Tevas.  OUCH.  I've stubbed 
> and cut
> toes while both barefoot and sandaled.  Sandals are safer than going
> barefoot, but not much.
>   All of which leads to my thought that my feet deserve to be 
> protected -
> and, at least where I live, boots seem to offer the best protection. 
>  A
> medium weight wet shoe (like the NRS ATB) does admirable duty when 
> on the
> water and a pair of medium weight hikers take care of shore-bound 
> tasks.  My
> Tevas are great for kicking around town (especially with a pair of 
> high
> fashion fleece socks<grin>), but I don't wear them "in the bush".
>   Any injury outdoors, away from the convenience of quick, 
> professional
> medical attention, is something to be avoided.  Don't just follow 
> the
> example of pictures that you see in various paddling magazines to 
> make your
> paddling footwear choices - evaluate your environment, climate, 
> planned
> activities, and the myriad possibilities for "unplanned adventures" 
> (ie.
> emergencies).
> 
> Dave Seng
> Juneau, Alaska
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
>
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From: Robert C. Cline <rccline_at_swbell.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:24:43 -0600
While I posted to this last year, it is worth repeating:

I had a carabiner on my PFD which I clipped my tow-rope into.  One day did a
wet exit in surf, and I got clipped underneath my kayak. I managed to unclip
and come up for air.

Robert

> From: volinjo_at_juno.com
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
> 
> In addition to Dave's excellent advice, I want to point out the risk of
> the sandle catching on the footpegs.  I quit wearing my Tevas to paddle
> in when that happened to me.
> 
> Joan

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:15:47 -0500
I can't wear sandals in Florida. There are too many oyster shells to deal
with.

cya

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To: p w
Subject: [Paddlewise] Footwear


I picked up a pair of Nike sandals just before I went to
Florida in November (which is sandal weather there) from an
outlet store for 20 bucks. Very comfortable; more arch
support than many of the type. Can't attest to longevity
yet.

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From: Peter van den Hurk <pvdhurk_at_ufl.edu>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:12:28 -0600
At 09:15 AM 2/15/00 -0500, Bob Denton wrote:
>I can't wear sandals in Florida. There are too many oyster shells to deal
>with.
>
>cya

I totally agree, it is too hot in Florida to even wear sandals. And all the
oyster shells getting stuck in sandals are too annoying. That's why I
always paddle barefoot! Never problems with straps getting stuck :-)

Peter


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:41:03 -0500
I wear Nike water shoes to the water and paddle barefoot with the shoes
bungeed on the back deck. The oysters shells I'm referring to are the ones
growing on rocks that slice your feet to ribbons.

cya

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Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Footwear


At 09:15 AM 2/15/00 -0500, Bob Denton wrote:
>I can't wear sandals in Florida. There are too many oyster shells to deal
>with.
>
>cya

I totally agree, it is too hot in Florida to even wear sandals. And all the
oyster shells getting stuck in sandals are too annoying. That's why I
always paddle barefoot! Never problems with straps getting stuck :-)

Peter

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From: Philip Torrens <skerries_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:12:21 PST
>From: Dan Hagen <dan_at_hagen.net>

>I couldn't agree more. I really wanted to like my Tevas, but they just
>don't provide much protection. Getting gravel and shell fragments
>between my foot and the sandal is the worst problem. I just don't
>understand why people prefer these things to the many superior
>alternatives.

Even though I'm a Pacific Northwest paddler, and therefore an "Aquashoe" 
kinda guy (I need the ankle support and oyster protection), I can see at 
least one pontential advantage to sandals: your feet get to "breath" a lot 
more. I find on longer trips I am very prone to Athlete's Foot (which seems 
unfair, since I hardly have an Athlete's body:-) I have to be careful to 
remove my soggy Aquashoes at lunch and whenever I'm off the water for the 
day, and walk around barefoot to expose my toes to air and sunlight for at 
least an hour a day.

Philip Torrens
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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:32:20 -0500 (EST)
> 
> Even though I'm a Pacific Northwest paddler, and therefore an "Aquashoe" 

I layer my feet - Chaco sandals, fleece socks, neoprene booties, and
Sealskin socks - mix and match!

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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:31:02 -0600
Just to add my $.02 to this already massive thread. Before spending 
the "big bucks" on a fancy pair of Tevas, make sure your feet are 
comfortable in your boat with sandals. My feet fall asleep (pins and 
needles) in the boat when in something as stiff in a sandal. In good 
weather, I generally wear an old pair of low-cut diving shoes with a 
very flexible sole. The sole looks like a sneaker, but is flexible to 
fit into diving fins. In winter, it is multiple layers under the 
drysuit bootie, then neo booties, then if I have to walk, I wear 
sandals over everything, but last them under my shockcords once I am 
in the boat.

Actually, I know several people who wear sandals until they get in to 
their boats, then strap 'em to the deck and paddle barefoot.

-Patrick

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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:36:55 -0500
I don't know about "running shoes," but my paddling shoes are Tevas (not
to be confused with Teva sandals).  They look like running shoes, but
they're specifically made for watersports.  They work very well, they're
comfortable, and they're great on pebbly beaches.  They do let the sand
in a little easier than they let it out, but not so much as to be
uncomfortable.  My only gripe with them is the very long laces, that I
always step on and open.  I've taken to double-knotting them, and then
stuffing the ends inside the shoes.

Joan

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:07:21 -0400 Michael Bradley
<kobra_at_interlinx.qc.ca> writes:
> I was in my local 'Gimme-all-your-cash' outdoor shop yesterday and 
> there, on
> the shelf beckoning me in their direction were a pair of neat Teva 
> 'running
> shoes' with little mesh inserts along the sides for letting the 
> water run out
> (and the sand in?). Anyway, they seemed to be an interesting answer 
> to the
> need-more-sandal without going the too-much-shoe-to paddle-in 
> problem.
> 
> Anyone tried these things? No, I didn't buy, I'll shop around a bit 
> first...
> *LOL*
> 
> Michael Bradley
> 
>
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From: Shawn W. Baker <baker_at_montana.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:53:45 -0600
Echo what Steve said.  I bought a pair of pac boots from Cabelas and
they were at least 3/4" too wide for me.  They must have some very
wide-footed guys in the Midwest.

Shawn

Steve Cramer wrote:
>I have very narrow feet. I once bought a pair of felt-sole neoprene
>wading booties from Cabela's for paddling and they were tremendously
>wide. Like and extra 3/4" of space for me.

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From: SRI <sailboatrestorations_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Footwear
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:09:27 -0000
I have a pair of Chota knee-high "Quick-Lace" boots and a pair of Chota
knee-high "waterproof socks"; since the boots are quite wide, the thick
socks fill in the difference and the combo works well.  These actually do
keep my feet dry, even when wading in nearly knee-high water.  They are also
very warm.  I'm very satisfied with the products.
Mark

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