As i am using a soft shell foldable (Klepper Aerius 2) and colleagues use hardshell kayaks, i am interrested to get information about performance of such mixed groups. As i know the max. design speed is very different, but at cruising speed, at "non duck pond" conditions, gear loaded, single vs double etc. the different design concepts are much closer. So it´s very hard to estimate speed and the complex interaction a mixed group. Tha fact thatthe foldables act as a stable platform during recovery after capsize of a hardshell are already discussed in detail here (see FAQ) So i have to count on your experience to get a good estmation for my trip planning for the circumnavigation of Elba next spring. Best thanks for sharing Joerg Vienna, Austria Jörg Komenda TQM Manager BCT CDS - Industries Philips Austria GmbH Gutheil Schoder Gasse 8-12 A-1102 Wien, Austria (Office : +43 1 60101 4456 (Mobile : +43 664 331 99 77 * Office : Joerg.Komenda_at_philips.com * Mobile : Joerg.Komenda_at_A1plus.at *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Joerg, Yesterday I happened to paddle a trip of 25 km in a mixed group, three single seat hardshells (two flatwater tourers of type Kajett, and a NDK Romany Explorer), a Klepper double and my own Klepper single. My Klepper was slowest, but that might also be caused by my lack of condition, the double Klepper (with two crew) could well keep up with the others. Also on other trips I have seen similar, a relatively short and wide Aerius I stays behind, a longer and better powered (two man) Aerius II can keep up with a mixed group. I don't know about a single powered Aerius II, I fear you might stay behind even more that in a single seat one. One observation an experienced AE-II paddler made after test paddling my AE-I was that the AE-II has more of a "brick-wall" behaviour when trying to go faster, at a certain speed (I guess about 7-8 km/h) it just won't go much faster, while I can paddle my AE-I at least 9 km/h when I really put some effort in. My cruising speed is about 6 though. All these observations were made on flat water, it might be that an Aerius has more advantage on waves, as it should need less bracing strokes. regards, Kees www.vouwkano.nl (in case you read Dutch) joerg.komenda_at_philips.com wrote: > As i am using a soft shell foldable (Klepper Aerius 2) and colleagues > use > hardshell kayaks, i am interrested to get information about > performance of > such mixed groups. As i know the max. design speed is very different, > but > at cruising speed, at "non duck pond" conditions, gear loaded, single > vs > double etc. the different design concepts are much closer. So it´s > very > hard to estimate speed and the complex interaction a mixed group. Tha > fact > thatthe foldables act as a stable platform during recovery after > capsize > of a hardshell are already discussed in detail here (see FAQ) > > So i have to count on your experience to get a good estmation for my > trip > planning for the circumnavigation of Elba next spring. > > > Best thanks for sharing > Joerg > Vienna, Austria *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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