Just a point of information... Paul Dutky in his book "The Bombproof Roll and Beyond" describes two fundamental rolls, the sweep roll and the brace roll. He further breaks down the brace roll into two types, the basic and the advanced. When I read the descriptions and methods, it seems that what he calls a "brace roll" is actually what folks here and elsewhere call a "C to C roll." He doesn't, as far as I've read, ever mention a roll called a "C to C." Are these two rolls synonymous? Tom *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tom, C to C and brace roll are the same. Duane *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 11 Sep 2003 at 21:29, TomL wrote: > When I read the descriptions and methods, it seems that what he calls > a "brace roll" is actually what folks here and elsewhere call a "C to > C roll." He doesn't, as far as I've read, ever mention a roll called a > "C to C." Are these two rolls synonymous? As Duane points out, they are the same. I've set up a web page a year and a half ago that lists all rolls I know about and includes cross-references of the various names that are used. You'll see on it that I list the brace roll as simply Dutky's term for a C-C. http://members.rogers.com/michaeldaly2/kayakRollingXref.htm Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Daly wrote: > On 11 Sep 2003 at 21:29, TomL wrote: > >>When I read the descriptions and methods, it seems that what he calls >>a "brace roll" is actually what folks here and elsewhere call a "C to >>C roll." He doesn't, as far as I've read, ever mention a roll called a >>"C to C." Are these two rolls synonymous? > > As Duane points out, they are the same. I've set up a web page a > year and a half ago that lists all rolls I know about and includes > cross-references of the various names that are used. You'll see on > it that I list the brace roll as simply Dutky's term for a C-C. > > http://members.rogers.com/michaeldaly2/kayakRollingXref.htm Nice resource there, Mike. To be precise (well, OK, pedantic) the C-to-C is a high brace roll. Low brace rolls are used to roll canoes (Canadians, to you non-North Americans) and C-1s. The headstand roll (Hutchinson, 4th edition) is also a low brace roll. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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