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From: Peter Cragg <critters_at_houston.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Rolling WW vs Touring Kayaks
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:51:07 -0500
I use a partial C to C / sweep roll in my Dagger rpm MAX, Animas or 
Perception Pirouette.  I can roll slowly, or fast depending on need.  
Paddle in the ready position on recovery.

In my touring kayak, Dagger Cortez, I can use the same roll to get up 
right.  The roll is just much slower. The Cortez is narrower than the WW 
kayaks.   I prefer to use an extended paddle (sweep) roll.  Moving my 
hand to the end of the paddle in the roll.  The roll is easy and I get 
up all of the time. 

Extended paddle rolls are frowned upon in ww Kayaking.

Safe Paddling

-- 
Pete Cragg
Scoutmaster
Troop 889



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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rolling WW vs Touring Kayaks
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:34:26 -0400
On 12 Sep 2003 at 10:51, Peter Cragg wrote:

> I prefer to use an extended paddle (sweep) roll.  Moving
> my hand to the end of the paddle in the roll.  The roll is easy and I
> get up all of the time. 
> 
> Extended paddle rolls are frowned upon in ww Kayaking.

Moving your hands around unnecessarily during rolls is not a good 
idea in general.  You should be able to screw roll any sea kayak - 
just keep working on it.  If you can't crew roll a sea kayak, your 
technique with an extended paddle is probably not quite right.

However, as far as extended rolls go, when I switched to using a 
Greenland-style paddle extensively, I found that much of the rolling 
and paddling technique involves moving the hands.  Once you get used 
to it, it seems quite natural and doesn't cause problems.  It should 
be noted, though, that with a Greenland stick, you slide your hand.  
With a Euro paddle, getting into the fully extended hand position 
involves moving the hand to the end of the blade.  This, due to the 
shape of the blade, can't easily be done with a simple slide.  Only a 
short Pawlata position (with the hand at the root of the blade, not 
near the tip) can be done with a slide.

I find that when I use a Euro nowadays, I slide my hand all over the 
shaft but never to the blade.  And I use a bent shaft!

Mike

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