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From: Roy Brand <mackbrand72_at_elltel.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] foldables
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:30:29 -0700
Mack here,
Thanks guys--Tony, Bill, Patrick, Rick, Ralph Hoehn, David, Ralph Mawyer,
Peter, and Alex.
Got some interesting info and opinions...appreciate it.
I've been researching foldables for a month now; been to Folding Kayaks
site, Michael Edelman's, where he lists and describes foldables. Been to
pretty much all the different sites. Emailed Ralph Diaz, but haven't heard
back yet (he must be gone for awhile...one of you mentioned that). I've read
somewhere that he critiqued Puffins, but before '02, when Alv Elvestad
redesigned them. Think I'll get Diaz's 2003 book. I'm also going to call Alv
on Monday...I did yesterday, but his wife Laura said he was at a boat show
in MA (oh yeah, so did Ralph H.)
I've used hardshell kayaks some, studied the websites, tried out several
different brands. Two years ago I almost bought a Mariner Max after talking
with Matt Broze in his Seattle shop (because I'm 6'4", and was highly
impressed with Mariners from their website). But the prob for me with
hardshells is transporting and portaging with one leg, one hand on crutches.
I don't want a sit-on-top or a twisty inflatable, but then I don't want a
wood-framed or Hypalon hulled foldable. I also don't want a foldable that
assembles with "expansion clips", an obvious glitch in assembly since some
sites offer an alternate method to the original to install them...a
prosthetic hook doesn't grip for beans. Assembly and size of cockpit are my
main focuses, that is, after finding a reasonably decent performing
light-touring or "recreational" foldable--that classification's a little
curious, huh?...what are WW, touring, SK and surfers doing...working?    }:)
Well, no doubt working much harder than us flatwaterers.
Glad to learn about Lyle Hancock's place in Seattle (thanks Peter and
David)...I'll go there soon to checkout Atlatls.
So, thanks again, all...and thanks for informing me about the Yahoo
bagboater group...I just joined, and think I'll just post this message on
it, as soon as I'm accepted. For that reason, I include this question: What
do you think about the new Puffins, folks?  Compared to Atlatl?That is, for
ease of assembly for someone like me? What about performance?
Thanks,
Mack

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From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foldables
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:20:55 EDT
In a message dated 9/12/2003 9:07:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, al.m_at_3web.net 



writes:





> ... There is also Mike Edelman's website (can't get the address from this 


> brouser now), ...


+++





<A HREF="http://www.foldingkayaks.org/">http://www.foldingkayaks.org/</A>





Best regards,


Ralph





Ralph C. Hoehn





Folding Boat Center


P.O. Box 700


Enfield NH 03748





info_at_FoldingBoatCenter.com


www.FoldingBoatCenter.com





phone: +1-802-649-2555 -- Ralph


phone: +1-603-632-9500 -- Alv     (yup, they rhyme)





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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foldables
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 19:06:31 EDT
mack, do go to the backboater group as well, there has been recent discussion 
comparing the puffin/aleut/yukon.

i was out in my puffin sport kayak this weekend - it's 10.5' - got it before 
it "growed" to be a 12-footer (unfortunately).

i think it would help if you would tell us what you want out of a kayak.  do 
you just want something to putz around in...on flat water?  

the comment that the puffin is like a canoe, is valid....but that's not 
necessarily a bad thing.  

i have hip arthiritis and it is very easy for me to get in and out of this 
boat.  with your handicaps, i think that's an important consideration, so do pay 
attention to cockpit size as you look around.

since i had my two doggies with me I didn't put the deck cover on...but it 
does "feel" more like a "real" kayak when the deck is in place.  but frankly, my 
dear.....  :)  

Alv is having is annual demo day some time next may in new hampshire..... but 
it is possible to find demo boats at a discount price.  check out the 
www.pakboats.com website.

Bagboater_at_yahoogroups.com

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