OK, all of you safety conscious paddlers, how do you prepare/guard against this? :) http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N21270962.htm (Scientists have determined that methane bubbles from the bottom of the ocean can sink ships.) Mel There are 10 kinds of people, those that understand Binary and those that don't. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Had to chuckle when I saw this...my kids are 'into' the Rescue Heroes action figures...and videos. In one episode a seaplane sinks after landing in the area where methane is being released from the ocean floor. A small boat is also rescued when they enter this area....one swimmer sinks due to lack of buoyancy....of course, the Hollywood animators added the ignition of the methane bubble to add a bit of fiery explosion to the mix... :o) K *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/21/2003 4:20:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, mel_at_grindol.com writes: > OK, all of you safety conscious paddlers, how do you prepare/guard against > this? :) > > http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N21270962.htm > > (Scientists have determined that methane bubbles from the bottom of the > ocean can sink ships.) If you thought methane bubbles were a danger kayakers, how about this: <A HREF="https://www.clearhost.net/%7Ehovercraft/index.html">https://www.clearhost.net/%7Ehovercraft/index.html</A> I recommend watching the UH-18SPW HoverwingTM video clip ... Best regards, Ralph Ralph C. Hoehn Folding Boat Center P.O. Box 700 Enfield NH 03748 info_at_FoldingBoatCenter.com www.FoldingBoatCenter.com phone: +1-802-649-2555 -- Ralph phone: +1-603-632-9500 -- Alv (yup, they rhyme) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 21 Oct 2003 at 14:17, Mel Grindol wrote: > (Scientists have determined that methane bubbles from the bottom of > the ocean can sink ships.) Interesting. I seem to remember tales of the sea boiling and great sea monsters swallowing the ship. Maybe this is one of the sources of such a legend... Of course if you keep your spraydeck on, it would be an interesting ride! Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Daly wrote: > On 21 Oct 2003 at 14:17, Mel Grindol wrote: > >>(Scientists have determined that methane bubbles from the bottom of >>the ocean can sink ships.) > > Interesting. I seem to remember tales of the sea boiling and > great sea monsters swallowing the ship. Maybe this is one > of the sources of such a legend... Methane bubbles are sometimes suggested as a cause of the "Bermuda Triangle." GaryJ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I hate to be crude but.....Basically this amounts to being sunk by a gigantic fart! Steve Brown (Scientists have determined that methane bubbles from the bottom of the ocean can sink ships.) Mel *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Methane bubbles are sometimes suggested as a cause of the "Bermuda > Triangle." Realistic! There are large amounts of methane clathrates (chemical term), like near south afrikas cape "of good hope", too and in the northern atlantik (nearby he svalbard archipelago). I remember docu-films, where drown ships had been shown, sunken without any normal reason from one scond to another. Blubb! Itīs the same effect - losing the buoyancy force - swimmers and paddlers suffer from (also) in extreme airfilled waterrapids. Dangerous! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jochen Grikschat" <grikschat_at_web.de> > > Methane bubbles are sometimes suggested as a cause of the "Bermuda Triangle." I watched a show on this subject. They had footage of an oil rig sinking after it disturbed a methane pocket while drilling. Men drowned while wearing floatation suits due to lack of buoyancy in the aerated water. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jochen Grikschat" <grikschat_at_web.de> > > > Methane bubbles are sometimes suggested as a cause of the "Bermuda > Triangle." > I've flown or sailed through the triangle on perhaps twenty occasions and what they say is true! I disappeared mysteriously on the eleventh trip and was never seen again... Joe P. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Joe said: >>>I've flown or sailed through the triangle on perhaps twenty occasions and what they say is true! I disappeared mysteriously on the eleventh trip and was never seen again...<<< I almost disappeared too, the first time I released a large, personal methane bubble in my new drysuit on the way back from Jolie's after ingesting more than a normal human male's share of her Washington-famous homemade kayaker's chilli. Interestingly, I accompanied my daughters to the Institute of Ocean Sciences here in Victoria this past Spring for a field trip. The Acoustic Research scientists had some interesting sonar-type imagery of the sea floor off the Fraser River, showing large, inexplicable round holes. "Crop circles" underwater? They had been investigating them as possible dangers to navigation (as in what caused the deep, large holes). Funnily enough, the scientist with the Acoustic Research Group who was explaining the phenomenon, then went on to what appeared to be one of his obvious personal favourites, namely sharing his team's data on the odd tides up near Cape Caution. I got into an argument with the guy over my little mishap up there a few years ago, suggesting they ought to do more research, and facilitate this information to the Hydrographic Service for placement on charts of the area, as an aid for slow moving vessels. It must have been a heated exchange, because my family mysteriously disappeared and I did not find them for another hour or so in the labyrinth of hallways and labs. http://pulson.seos.uvic.ca/new_research.html Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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