With all the new designs out there and living in the isolated UP, I no longer have a handle on how fast some of these boats are. I have owned a mariner II for 14 years and have thousands of miles on it. I'm starting to worry about strength of the hull and both ABS bulkheads are held together with duct tape. So I need to glass in some bulkheads at the very least. I'll probably never part with the mariner since it has taken me to such wonderful places and I know exactly how it will handle. But I might consider a second boat that could hold maybe a little less gear but go faster. I don't have much opportunity to try out boats so does anyone know of any boats that are speedier than the mariner II fully loaded with an equivalent payload or a little less? Mike Dziobak Houghton, MI 49931 906-487-3471 Fax: 906-487-2943 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:23:18 -0500, Mike Dziobak <mdziobak_at_mtu.edu> wrote: [...] > But I might consider a second boat that could hold maybe a little less > gear but go faster. I don't have much opportunity to try out boats so > does anyone know of any boats that are speedier than the mariner II > fully loaded with an equivalent payload or a little less? At normal cruising speed with a fully loaded kayak, there isn't much difference between most seakayaks. The force required to maintain a 4 knots speed is close to 3.6 pounds force. As you probably know, Seakayaker Magazine has published a large range of reviews of kayaks, in which these numbers of resistance are calculated. The Mariner II however, doesn't seem to have been tested(but I'm sure Matt Broze can provide the numbers). I've published a webpage where these numbers are listed: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~pjunold/kajak/kayakstatistics2.html More information is presented here: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~pjunold/kajak/kayakstatistics.html Likewise the download page of Mariner Kayaks links to a Excel spreadsheet with some of these numbers: http://www.marinerkayaks.com/mkhtml/downloads.htm best regards Peter at 56010.18'N 10012.00'E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mike, I enjoy my QCC 700. The hull is very efficient and unloaded I cruise all day at 5 mph. I'm sure the speed would drop loaded but the boat handles well in all I've put it through from calm to 20 knot winds. I've paddled up to 8 miles at 6 mph with no problem and not going aerobic. Waterline length is around 17.5 feet, 21 inches in beam. I bought mine in Carbon/Kevlar and it weighs about 48 pounds. I got the skeg option and have had nothing but trouble with the skeg deployment system, although the skeg is made by Seal Line and has very little drag deployed. However, when I want to go really fast I take out the Futura Inferno. Can't pack much more than a water bottle on a surfski though. Good luck on your next boat choice, Ed DeBee On 3 Nov 2003 at 21:23, Mike Dziobak wrote: > With all the new designs out there and living in the isolated UP, I no > longer have a handle on how fast some of these boats are. I have owned > a mariner II for 14 years and have thousands of miles on it. I'm > starting to worry about strength of the hull and both ABS bulkheads > are held together with duct tape. So I need to glass in some bulkheads > at the very least. I'll probably never part with the mariner since it > has taken me to such wonderful places and I know exactly how it will > handle. But I might consider a second boat that could hold maybe a > little less gear but go faster. I don't have much opportunity to try > out boats so does anyone know of any boats that are speedier than the > mariner II fully loaded with an equivalent payload or a little less? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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