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From: TomL <tletourn_at_maine.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Guide training?
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:55:07 -0500
Is there a specific regimen of training and assessments through which 
interested sea kayakers work to attain guide certification?

If there are various certifications, which is the most valuable in terms of 
learning the best kayak seamanship? In terms of guide employment value?

Has anyone on the forum attended guide schools in the northeast USA? I live 
in southwestern Maine. Would you have any recommendations?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Tom
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From: Melissa Reese <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Guide training?
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:20:35 -0800
On Sunday 23 November 2003 01:55 pm, TomL wrote:

> Is there a specific regimen of training and assessments through
> which interested sea kayakers work to attain guide certification?

There are the BCU and ACA certification courses, and then there's the  
"Master Maine Guide" certification as well. (see below for links).

> If there are various certifications, which is the most valuable in
> terms of learning the best kayak seamanship? In terms of guide
> employment value?

I haven't tried the BCU or ACA courses (haven't tried any courses! 
:-)), but there are several people on this list who have gone 
through, or are currently involved with these, so I'm sure they'll be 
happy to offer their opinions.

> Has anyone on the forum attended guide schools in the northeast
> USA? I live in southwestern Maine. Would you have any
> recommendations?

I just found these sites with a bit of Google searching on "Master 
Maine Guide".  I'm in a bit of a rush to get out the door and on the 
water, but I'm sure you could find more:

http://www.southernmaineguideservice.com/

http://www.eaglelodgemaine.com/guidesch.html

-- 
Melissa
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From: Nick Schade <nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Guide training?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:12:03 -0500
To guide in Maine you must pass the Maine Guide test administered by 
the state. Guiding without being a registered Maine Guide is illegal in 
Maine. The test includes a written and an oral section. If you want to 
guide kayaks you must also take the sea kayak portion of the test. This 
does not include any on-the-water testing. Their is no training 
required to take the test or to be a guide. If is conceivable that you 
can pass the test to be a registered Maine guide without ever having 
placed a paddle in the water. You can learn everything required to pass 
the test by reading books.

The only qualifications required to guide in Maine is to be a 
registered Maine guide. Passing the test would probably guarantee your 
ability to get a job at one of the many outfitters which do 3-hour 
tours in Bar Harbor. The test is not easy, so there is demand for 
registered guides.

However, having personally pulled a couple of registered guides out of 
the water when they did something really ignorant, I can tell you that 
doing what it takes to be a legally registered Maine Guide does not 
give you what you need to be any damn good. It is just the lowest 
requirement. Becoming a guide who can reliably keep guests safe and out 
of trouble requires experience. Classes will help learn some of the 
skills, but time on the water is the best training.

Tom Berg at Maine Island Kayak gives guiding classes. I have not taken 
his classes, but he has an excellent reputation. Take some classes, get 
on the water, do some trips.
Nick

On Nov 23, 2003, at 4:55 PM, TomL wrote:

> Is there a specific regimen of training and assessments through which 
> interested sea kayakers work to attain guide certification?
>
> If there are various certifications, which is the most valuable in 
> terms of learning the best kayak seamanship? In terms of guide 
> employment value?
>
> Has anyone on the forum attended guide schools in the northeast USA? I 
> live in southwestern Maine. Would you have any recommendations?
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice!
>
Nick Schade

Guillemot Kayaks
824 Thompson St
Glastonbury, CT 06033
USA
Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
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From: Steve Brown <steve_at_brown-web.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Guide training?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:25:38 -0800
I don't know anything about guide certification for Maine, but the ACA's IDW
(instructor development workshop) for coastal kayak instructor is the best
kayak training I have ever taken. Very well rounded, with a strong emphasis
on group management and safety of not-so-skilled paddlers.
Here's a link:
http://www.acanet.org/sei-bec-instructor.htm

The certification (ICE) can be done after taking the IDW.

Steve Brown
 

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Is there a specific regimen of training and assessments through which 
interested sea kayakers work to attain guide certification?

If there are various certifications, which is the most valuable in terms of 
learning the best kayak seamanship? In terms of guide employment value?

Has anyone on the forum attended guide schools in the northeast USA? I live 
in southwestern Maine. Would you have any recommendations?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Tom
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From: Alder Creek Kayak & Canoe <aldercreek_at_qwest.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Guide training?
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:09:21 -0800
The ACA and BCU training that Melissa talks about, is more for instruction/
coaching than it is 'guiding'.  While much of the info is similar the focus
is on teaching paddlesports more than guiding peeps in the woods/ at sea.

For trip leadership, my company requires the ACA cert 'and' our own guides
training, which is focused on our own program and employees.

good luck

steve
Alder Creek Kayak & Canoe    N   45: 36.285'
250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr.     W 122: 39.841'
Portland, OR  97217          Web: www.aldercreek.com
Phone: 503.285.0464        Email: aldercreek_at_qwest.net
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