Re: [Paddlewise] Keeping kayak club members in touch.

On 17 Dec 2003 at 15:07, Bob Myers wrote:


> Paddlewise (and its associated paddling lists, such as CKF, Baidarka,
> GASP! etc) were originally set up by me at my startup ISP, about 8
> years ago 

Thanks for the info.

I would consider running it out of my home for the club, but for the 
fact that my ISP (cable-based) won't allow a server at the user's 
end.  I used to work in web development and hosting, so it would be 
easy (well...) for me to do that.  It wouldn't be as fast as 
commercial T1 or DSL, but adequate for our club's needs.  I'm keeping 
this in mind if I end up on another ISP after "the move" (our house 
is currently for sale, but it's likely that I'll stay with the cable 
ISP at a new location).  If I find another ISP that will allow a 
small server in my home, then the incremental cost to me would be 
zilch.

BTW - can a mailserver/majordomo setup be administered remotely, or 
is physical access to the server pretty much mandatory?

> So who pays for it?  Mostly me. Kirk is paying for the domain name
> these days, so that's a little less expense for me, but the vast
> majority of the costs are for the DSL line  By reasonable accounting
> standards some share of my computer hardware is devoted to Paddlewise,
> but those expenses are much lower than the DSL line. 

Pretty generous of you!  I know that some folks consider such a thing 
a part of their hobby and don't find such costs out of line with 
their interests.  Still, it is generous.

> Anyway, it's basically no incremental cost for me to add another
> kayak club list if you want to use our old Majordomo system, as long
> as the list is fairly small (i.e., Paddlewise-size or smaller).  Let
> me know if you're interested.

Thanks for the offer.  I guess I'd like this but feel ackward about 
such an offer since you're so far away and not associated with our 
club.  In spite of the international nature of the Internet, it still 
seems weird to consider having our club's list hosted in another 
country!  (We have only about 5-10 members in the US, mostly in NY 
near Buffalo/Niagara - we have as many members in Europe).  Almost 
everyone is in southern Ontario.  If we go that route, I'd like to 
find a member with a suitable setup; I know that some members use a 
family member's server - perhaps we can get in there.

In general, I'm thinking that Yahoo groups might suffice.  In the 
short term, it would be easier to set up and kill if it isn't working 
out.  If it does work but the spam is too much to deal with, then we 
might consider changing to a mail listserver.

Thanks again for the info and again for hosting Paddlewise!!!

Mike
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