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From: Allan & Joyce Singleton <alsjfs_at_paradise.net.nz>
subject: [Paddlewise] Replacement GPS
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:36:07 +1200
I am about to retire my Garmin GPS 38, and have decided that its
replacement should have an electronic compass (which seems to mean that
you get a barometric altimeter as well).

>From what is available in New Zealand the alternatives seem to be:

Garmin	Geko 301
		eTrex Summit
		eTrex Vista
		GPSMap 76S
		GPSMap 60CS

Silva (Brunton in US) Multi-Navigator

The Geko 301 and eTrex Summit are the same price here, so I lean towards
the larger display and better battery life of the Summit. The Vista is
still within my price range, but the GPSMap models are a bit too
expensive.

The Silva seems to have an advantage in that you can turn on the compass
without the GPS and get extremely long battery life - up to 60 days
claimed.

Any comments welcomed, but in particular does anyone have experience
with the Silva?

Allan Singleton
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Replacement GPS
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:36:31 -0700
>Allan Singleton said:
> The Silva seems to have an advantage in that you can turn on 
> the compass without the GPS and get extremely long battery 
> life - up to 60 days claimed.

Allan,

If it is in your budget, I would go for the GPSMap76 WITHOUT the compass.
You will still need a deck compass (batteries do fail) and if you are taking
an extended trip you can really save on battery usage by only turning on the
gps when needed.

The Map76 display is much larger and easier to read than the Etrex units,
the unit floats and is submersable (but I still recommend using a dry bag
for electronics).

My unit has been working extremely well for almost a year now.

Steve Holtzman
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From: Carey Parks <cparks_at_fuse.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Replacement GPS
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:17:17 -0400
>Allan Singleton said:
> The Silva seems to have an advantage in that you can turn on
> the compass without the GPS and get extremely long battery
> life - up to 60 days claimed.

Hi Allan,

I have the GPSmap76S, with the compass. Our reason for getting the S was not
so much the barometer or compass, but that it comes with 256meg of memory
while the non-S has a lot less. The display is much better than the smaller
ones because unlike when hiking, I often lay the GPS on the spray skirt and
glance at it while paddling. The smaller screens are hard for my old eyes to
see at that distance. The compass can be turned off when not in use, so
battery wise it's a wash. I do find myself using the compass however when
figuring out what I'm looking at. Putting the map in course-up mode allows
the map to self-orient to the surroundings without needing to move the boat.
I can point the unit at a feature and the map places it top center. Overall
I like it. It is more costly of course.

Carey
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From: Peter Rattenbury <ratten_at_uow.edu.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Replacement GPS
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:15:11 +1000
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Hi Allan ,  I have a Silva and have been satisfied with it.  The positives
when I bought it three years ago were:
	1/The ability of the compass to read even when you are stationary,
	2/the relatively large display area with large alpha/numeric figures [ good
for ageing eyes and poor reading conditions ],
	3/ the relatively simple and logical operations
	4/ the claim that it was built for rough conditions, floats.
	5/ the claimed battery life.
	6/ a barometer with a 36 hour history [ without a history to read, a
barometer is basically not much use.  It is good to know how the fronts and
pressure systems are progressing.
	7/ the ability to name waypoints with real names, ie, in alpha, which not
all GPS units could do.

	I have not researched other units such as Garmin etc since I bought the
Silva, but at the time these were significant advantages.  It was the only
GPS which had a 'stationary' compass when it was first released.  I believe
that at least one Garmin has this ability today.
	Since I bought mine, Magellan have released their Meridian series, and the
Meridian Platinum would be a serious contendor against the Silva.  If I was
looking at the Magellan I would see if it has a barometer history ability
and  the size of the alpha/numeric readouts,  and whether the waypoint
facility gives you alpha ability.

	The negatives for the Silva were for me:

	the cost
	reported problems with Silva in the customer service side of things. [I
have had OK service in Australia]
	the necessity to use their own limited mapping software.
	limited numbers of users, ie, Garmin absolutely dominates the market and
nearly all the GPS message board chat is Garmin oriented.
	And I was suprised at battery usuage.  In other words it seemed to go
through batteries in spite of Silva claims.  But in real life,  the cost of
replacing a couple of AAs is nothing and people make too much of battery
consumption, now that the later units are more efficient.

You are in Hamilton, are you not?

Regards, Peter Rattenbury, Wollongong.


-----Original Message-----
From: Allan & Joyce Singleton
Subject: [Paddlewise] Replacement GPS


I am about to retire my Garmin GPS 38, and have decided that its
replacement should have an electronic compass (which seems to mean that
you get a barometric altimeter as well).

>From what is available in New Zealand the alternatives seem to be:

Garmin	Geko 301
		eTrex Summit
		eTrex Vista
		GPSMap 76S
		GPSMap 60CS

Silva (Brunton in US) Multi-Navigator
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