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From: John MacKechnie <bigmac1_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Does anyone have any experience with the NRS Over Sea
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:29:08 -0400
jacket that can be slipped over a PFD if the weather goes bad.

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=2584&deptid=947


Also, does anyone have any experience with Spirit Sails. It looks like an
interesting set up?

John MacKechnie
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From: Patrick Maun <patrick_at_patrickmaun.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Does anyone have any experience with the NRS Over Sea
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:15:37 -0500
I got one about a month ago. Really well made with some nice features 
and the price is right. I haven't had to use it in really bad weather 
yet but seems like it will do the job.

One word of caution. The NRS sizing chart seems to be somewhat off 
for the jacket. I usually wear a medium but according to their chart 
I needed a large. The large was far too big so I ended up sending it 
back and getting a medium.

-Patrick


At 1:29 PM -0400 5/25/04, John MacKechnie wrote:
>jacket that can be slipped over a PFD if the weather goes bad.
>
>http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=2584&deptid=947
>
>
>Also, does anyone have any experience with Spirit Sails. It looks like an
>interesting set up?
>
>John MacKechnie
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From: Keith Wrage <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Spirit Sails
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:16:56 -0500
No experience with the jacket but in terms of downwind sails - I looked at 
these but at $250 I couldn't justify it for the amount of true downwind 
sailing I'd get.  I end up using (as I've seen others do) a 60 to 72" golf 
umbrella with the 'blow-out prevention' top.  A 60" umbrella = ~ 19 sq ft 
of sail, a 72" umbrella = ~ 28 sq ft of sail...enough to get you moving 
along.  The central part is vented so in case of a gust of wind the 
umbrella doesn't fold back.  The umbrella is easy to 'deploy' and stows 
easily on the rear deck with your spare paddle.  On one occasion I had a 
GPS along and was running 5-6 mph downwind.  No mounts required.  Easy to 
get rid of if you capsize (just let go).  The umbrella comes in handy 
around cap too.  You can buy this type of umbrella with a couple of clear 
panels - so you could see through the canopy.  BTW, a small float attached 
would be useful - umbrellas sink!

Probably not as sexy as the Spirit Sails but pretty versatile and only $30.

Also, if you ever needed a signaling device - a 72" umbrella being opened 
and closed with alternating orange and white panels would be pretty noticeable!

K
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Spirit Sails
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:19:18 -0700
> No experience with the jacket but in terms of downwind sails - I looked at
> these but at $250 I couldn't justify it for the amount of true downwind
> sailing I'd get.  I end up using (as I've seen others do) a 60 to 72" golf
> umbrella with the 'blow-out prevention' top.

I think they are $180 (CDN 250) at http://www.mec.ca , medium size.  Larger
should be $30 more.  Steve Isaak has a detailed report on its installation
and use in Watertribe magazine. The only advantage I can see (compared to
umbrella) is that you can add paddling force to it (nice option to keep you
warm too), and visibility is better due to narrow bottom part.  They include
a standard mount. For $30 you may replace it with a suction cup mount than
doesn't require any drilling and can be taken off, so will not attract
curious looks and questions when you just paddle.  For places with strong
and steady winds I would go for more "sail-looking" design, like Tasmaian
sails: http://www.vision.net.au/~jennings/sail/sail.html .  Paddling with
them is less relaxed than with medium Spirit - there is a control line, mast
is rigid which is either good or bad speaking of either sailing performance
or capsizing potential, and
boom seems to be low and close to forehead. Still, they allow more
cross-wind sailing than Spirit and can be reefed. There is also some hybrid
design resembling both Tasmanian and Spirit sails (V-shaped, but with a
control line), I think also in Tasmania.
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