The thread about lighters makes me curious about an old topic: matches, stoves, etc., in checked baggage on airlines. In studying the official baggage exclusions published by airlines, I notice that they seem to be careful to exclude fuel and fuel-containing camping equipment, but not camping equipment per se, such as clean, dry, used backpacking stoves and open bottles. This would seem to be a continuation of historical practice and common sense. However, the same guidelines do exclude strike anywhere matches from the category of acceptable checked luggage. Has anyone had recent bad (or good) experiences with empty stoves/bottles or matches? Do people ignore the prohibition on strike-anywhere matches in their checked luggage? Tom *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 8 Jun 2004 at 15:55, Joyce, Thomas F. wrote: > The thread about lighters makes me curious about an old topic: > matches, stoves, etc., in checked baggage on airlines. Matches and lighters are permitted as carry-on afaik. Slip them in a handbag/briefcase/camera bag etc and you should be ok. I still hear conflicting stories about acceptance of stoves and fuel tanks. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 03:55 PM 6/8/2004 -0500, Joyce, Thomas F. wrote: >The thread about lighters makes me curious about an old topic: matches, >stoves, etc., in checked baggage on airlines. In studying the official >baggage exclusions published by airlines, I notice that they seem to be >careful to exclude fuel and fuel-containing camping equipment, but not >camping equipment per se, such as clean, dry, used backpacking stoves >and open bottles. I've got a nice gas stove that I've used many times for backpacking and local paddling trips. When I flew to Florida last year for the Sweetwater symposium I checked the regulations and it seemed fairly strict. Basically, if the baggage checker decides to check the stove out and decides he smells gas in it he can refuse to let me bring it on the plane. Even if it were a brand new gas stove I'd still have to buy gas for it after I arrived at my destination. For trips involving air travel I now have a small stove that screws onto a can of propane. I've also got a small propane backpacking lantern. I think that stove was about $10 and the lantern around $20. Many hardware stores or even the most understocked outdoor gear store sells propane. >This would seem to be a continuation of historical >practice and common sense. However, the same guidelines do exclude >strike anywhere matches from the category of acceptable checked luggage. >Has anyone had recent bad (or good) experiences with empty >stoves/bottles or matches? Do people ignore the prohibition on >strike-anywhere matches in their checked luggage? I ignored it because I didn't know about it. John Fereira jaf30_at_cornell.edu Ithaca, NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I've got a nice gas stove that I've used many times for backpacking and > local paddling trips. > plane. Even if it were a brand new gas stove I'd still have to buy gas for > it after I arrived at my destination. Sounds like a liquid-fuel "white gas", not "liquified petroleum gas" (i.e. propane, butane etc) stove. Liquid-fuel stoves have more parts to retain fuel residues, and are more likely to smell than LPG stoves. Besides, buying liquid fuel upon arrival can be a problem, unless it is multi-fuel stove like Primus for $120 or more (I think it's called "Multifuel"), that burns anything including LPG (but not alcohole, and I not sure about gasoline). Try getting white gas, or LPG tank (not propane) in Baja - nearly impossible. >For trips involving air travel I now > have a small stove that screws onto a can of propane. I've also got a > small propane backpacking lantern. I think that stove was about $10 and > the lantern around $20. Many hardware stores or even the most understocked > outdoor gear store sells propane. This is what I'm using too - $15 burner. Propane lantern proved to be unreliable in a kayak (fragile mantle), I had to switch to battery lights. Propane is available in hardwares stores and many superstores, either green short tanks, or blue long ones (different size, same thread). Propane tanks don't work with expensive ($30+) LPG stoves, like Primus, MSR etc - thread is different, though propane fuel is just slightly less effective (and costs much cheaper). Even such propane tanks are sometimes unavailable at destination, or the only hardware store in village is closed at the time of arrival, and then I carry Sierra sove (a lot of hassle, collecting wood and using it). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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