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From: Doug Lloyd <dalloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mirage kayak - was Viscosity vs Verbosity
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:10:25 -0700
Kirk had posted:
>>>Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp
philosphies.<<<

I replied:
>> Ah yes, I know you like your disposable kayaks, Kirk. :-)<<

He then replied (snip):
>For those of us on some stretches of the north american east coast, our
rough water is your harbor chop.<

>We don't _need_ a bullet proof hull.<

Well, I don't absolutely _need_ bullet proof either, but as part of my play
philosophies, I do like to practice seal landings. On club trips out around
the Victoria breakwater, I've been know to ride the waves up onto the lower
breakwater blocks just for fun. Though, one of those new-generation cruise
ships ran into the breakwater the other week during gusty winds while
attempting docking. It now needs to be pulled out of the water for repairs -
and that's one heck of a big vessel. I just flip my boat over at home and
add a little more epoxy, which isn't required very often.

I also like to land on remote islands or get off the water where there are
no normal landings, when bad conditions get worse and I'm over my head as it
were. Knowing your hull, fully expedition loaded, can take a beating gives
you more options and more confidence.

I would like to get a super-light paddling boat one day for conditioning. I
was offered free instruction and use of a flat water Olympic K-1, but just
didn't have the time to coordinate with the owner. The local Speedster
paddlers (surf-ski kayaks) "industry" is doing very well in Victoria, though
it is sad to see Current Designs pulling up shop and heading State-side next
month. That's a major loss to the Victoria economy, including the jobs that
will be gone. The sexiest boat I've seen is a single outrigger (OC-1).

http://www.outriggerconnectionworldwide.com/

Requires a canoe paddle, yes I know, but a nice speed-freak boat indeed. At
the local inner-harbour music concert last year (where thousands of small
vessels fill the inner harbour for a summer's night of classical music by a
full orchestra), the guy in the Stingray was surrounded by swooning women.
You used to need a Corvette Stingray in the old days to catch that kind of
attention.

Doug Lloyd
Victoria BC
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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mirage kayak - was Viscosity vs Verbosity
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:01:07 -0400
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:10:25 -0700, "Doug Lloyd" <dalloyd_at_telus.net> said:
> Kirk had posted:
> >>>Embracing the antithesis of the Doug Lloyd 100 pound nordkapp
> philosphies.<<<
> 
> >We don't _need_ a bullet proof hull.<
> 
> Well, I don't absolutely _need_ bullet proof either, but as part of my play
> philosophies, I do like to practice seal landings. On club trips out around
> the Victoria breakwater, I've been know to ride the waves up onto the
> lower breakwater blocks just for fun.

There are definite advantages to paddling a tank.  I'm the wimp launching
the
boat in a foot of water and never putting the boat on land unless I'm
carrying it.
My paddling fun is normally aerobic instead of adrenalin based.

> I would like to get a super-light paddling boat one day for conditioning. I
> was offered free instruction and use of a flat water Olympic K-1, but just
> didn't have the time to coordinate with the owner. The local Speedster
> paddlers (surf-ski kayaks) "industry" is doing very well in Victoria, though
> it is sad to see Current Designs pulling up shop and heading State-side next
> month. That's a major loss to the Victoria economy, including the jobs that
> will be gone. The sexiest boat I've seen is a single outrigger (OC-1).
> 
> http://www.outriggerconnectionworldwide.com/

Our local outrigger canoe crew has 3 stingrays, a stingray duo (a
tandem), a viper duo
and a brand new OutriggerConnection fusion.  

I haven't seen the fusion yet but was told, by a StingRay owner, that the
fusion is beautiful - a work of art
(http://www.y2kanu.com/images/fusion/DSC00118.JPG).
There are more pictures at that site, if you drop the DSC00118.jpg off
the path, then view each .jpg.  

OutriggerConnection added a deep bucket seat for the fusion, the new seat
fits the stingray and
drastically improves the comfort and control.  I found the stingray
uncomfortable after an hour or so.
I did a 20 mile race on a StringRay and had to stretch out at one point -
having the amas was a definite
plus when stretching on the water.

Unfortunately we've had trouble with the CurrentDesign built
OutriggerConnection boat.  It's
ready for it's third ama - the first two amas have had contruction issues
(separated seams) and needed
to be replaced.  

> Requires a canoe paddle, yes I know, but a nice speed-freak boat indeed.

As a canoeist at heart there's absolutely nothing wrong with using a
single blade, in
fact, I prefer it ;-)


The outrigger canoes surf wonderfully.   Stability is funky.  They are
very stable leaning left,
with the equivalent of a 40 inch/1 meter beam, and tippy leaning right.

If you aren't surfing, a solo outrigger canoe is about the same speed as
a fast sea kayak,
roughly the same as a seda glider.  

> At the local inner-harbour music concert last year (where thousands of small
> vessels fill the inner harbour for a summer's night of classical music by
> a full orchestra), the guy in the Stingray was surrounded by swooning
> women. You used to need a Corvette Stingray in the old days to catch that kind
> of attention.



-- 
  Kirk Olsen
  kork4_at_cluemail.com
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