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From: Paul Ash <AshP_at_sundaytimes.co.za>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise News
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:32:42 +0200
>Desalinator is a must for such journeys

How do reverse osmosis pumps work? And what do they cost? I live in South
Africa where anything like this has to be imported and costs a bomb.

Cheers

Paul


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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise News
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 06:24:20 -0700
RO desalinators force salty water against a semipermeable membrane which has
pores so small they prevent the passage of relatively large materials such as
sodium ions, potassium ions, and chloride ions, while allowing the passage of
smaller water molecules.  The pressures required are quite high, so that
either a high pressure powered pump is needed (e.g., units usable aboard
ships) or a strong arm on a long lever (e.g., the hand-operated ones).  About
a liter an hour for the hand-operated ones.  At home, you'd pay money for a
four-hour workout ...

Silt clogs them, so a pre-filter is a must  They grow algae, which clogs
them.  They leak.

But, nothing else will do the job.

A pdf source ... more than you want to know ... :
http://www.practical-sailor.com/newspics/charts/881water.pdf

The Pur Survivor-06:  http://www.safetycentral.com/survivor06.html  (about
$US 600)

And, the Katadyn 35:
http://www.katadyn.ch/site/sg/home/marine/ou_products/survivor__35/

Google can make you knowledgeable ...

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Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Ash" <AshP_at_sundaytimes.co.za>

> How do reverse osmosis pumps work? And what do they cost? I live in South
> Africa where anything like this has to be imported and costs a bomb.
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise News
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:19:07 -0700
> How do reverse osmosis pumps work? And what do they cost? I live in South
> Africa where anything like this has to be imported and costs a bomb.

Since Dave has already explained how do they work, I could tell "how do you
work them" :-)...  You pump, and pump, and pump.  1 liter per hour for
PUR-06 (didn't see them cheaper than $500 new, but got mine for $150 - army
write-offs, 6 yrs old).  They exist in "military" modification, i.e. with
extended levers, and used units are often sold with such levers.  Pretty
small, I keep it in a bag 6"*10". Pumping is easy, prescribed frequency 1
stroke per second can be maintained by alternating hands. But is is so
boring...  Doing this every day for 4 hours will drive your crazy - and it
takes energy too.  Incredible Timo Noko :-) has designed wind-operated
PUR-06, photo can be found on his website.  After you use it in real-life
conditions, and then leave it for more than a few weeks, you have to either
pump clean chlorinated fresh water through it (preferably, once a month), or
fill it with "biocide" solution to prevent micro-organisms growth on the
membrane.

PUR-35 costs 3 or 4 times more, and is 2 or 3 times larger (but again, see
T. Noko's modification with removable fiberglass lever), and can provide 3.5
or 4 liters an hour.  It is said to be more difficult to pump, but it has
longer lever, - so I don't know.  I never tried it.  It can be used with 12V
motor, but is sold without a motor as well, with a handle for manual
pumping.

There is also PUR-40, which is said to be more sturdy than PUR-35 (and
probably provides 4 liters an hour).

With a motor the efficiency will be much higher - I don't remember the
specs.  They are made by "Recovery Engineering".
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