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From: Bill Silver <silver_at_onlink.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] wilderness rescue- Wilderness "Survivor race gone bad'.
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:30:03 -0400
 <http://tinyurl.com/3z2xl> http://tinyurl.com/3z2xl 

Wilderness "Survivor race gone bad'.

Is not Dave Martin the same gentleman who proposed the the race along the
outside passage on Vancouver Island?

 

Bill

In North Bay
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From: MICHAEL SILVIUS <M.Silvius_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:22:05 -0400
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Silver" <silver_at_onlink.net>
> <http://tinyurl.com/3z2xl>
> Wilderness "Survivor race gone bad'.

I am perpetually amazed how Darwin's principles today no longer apply!!!!
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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:09:57 EDT
In a message dated 9/29/2004 5:24:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
M.Silvius_at_worldnet.att.net writes:


> http://tinyurl.com/3z2xl

I loved the sentence: "One gentleman made it in 15 hours, he had real maps. 
We only had a photocopy with no elevation."

Wow. Real maps. Imagine the stupidity of signing up for 24 hours in the 
wilderness and not bringing a "real map".

Rob G
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From: Ben Sandee <tbsandee_at_pobox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:51:54 -0500
Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote:

>I loved the sentence: "One gentleman made it in 15 hours, he had real maps. 
>We only had a photocopy with no elevation."
>
>Wow. Real maps. Imagine the stupidity of signing up for 24 hours in the 
>wilderness and not bringing a "real map".
>  
>
In many of these types of adventure race events it is against the rules 
to bring your own maps, for a variety of reasons.  There is a certain 
amount of trust that these race directors will do their job -- in this 
case they simply didn't.  Of course the individuals need to take 
responsibility for themselves but if you want to participate in these 
types of events you are always putting some amount of faith in the 
directors.

b
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:16:08 -0700
> >I loved the sentence: "One gentleman made it in 15 hours, he had real
maps.
> >We only had a photocopy with no elevation."
> >
> >Wow. Real maps. Imagine the stupidity of signing up for 24 hours in the
> >wilderness and not bringing a "real map".

Just curious, what did they mean - a photocopy of topomap?  Ok, it's black
and white (probably) , but elevation lines are still there and normally are
quite legible.  I toyed with a regular and colour photocopies, copied 1:1 or
enlarged (and subsequently laminated) of map album that I didn't want to
bring along. Colour copies were less contrast, so I even hesitated for a
while, then decided to go for colour, it was somehow better to read despite
lower contrast.
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
Heck, ditch the entry fee and offer paint=ball guns to the participants 
and you would probably eliminate a large portion of the 15-22 
year-old male population, too. 

Jackie


> most unfit specimens of the population. I vote all participants are issued
> cotton garments only and maps are entirely forbidden. No radios GPS or
> rescue teams allowed. Hell don't even tell them were they  are suposed to
> go, let them figure it out. That should clean up at least a small percentage
> of the straglers. Better yet make the prize iresistably large, that way we
> should be able to do a good house cleaning job!!!
> michael
> the Darwin Nazi
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From: Donald Schoengold <schoengold_at_earthlink.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:38:50 -0700
I would make a really bad search and rescue worker.  These people should
have known that they had no business trying this stunt w/o supplies and
equipment.  I would have let Darwin do his thing - if you do a really dumb
thing, you should suffer the consequences whatever they are.



Wow. Real maps. Imagine the stupidity of signing up for 24 hours in the
wilderness and not bringing a "real map".
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From: MICHAEL SILVIUS <M.Silvius_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Survivor race gone bad'. Darwin was wrong!!!!!
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:34:44 -0400
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Schoengold" <schoengold_at_earthlink.net>
>   I would have let Darwin do his thing - if you do a really dumb
> thing, you should suffer the consequences whatever they are.
>

My point exactly, but in these times I guess we have even figured out how to
circumvent the basic laws of nature and are now ensuring the survival of the
most unfit specimens of the population. I vote all participants are issued
cotton garments only and maps are entirely forbidden. No radios GPS or
rescue teams allowed. Hell don't even tell them were they  are suposed to
go, let them figure it out. That should clean up at least a small percentage
of the straglers. Better yet make the prize iresistably large, that way we
should be able to do a good house cleaning job!!!
michael
the Darwin Nazi
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