I want to make a so-so waterproof deck-bag out of old day-pack. Is there anything in liquid or spray that works, and not too exotic - can't mail-order such things into Canada (wouldn't make economic sense either). Tried 80/20 mix of turpentine and silicon sealer a while ago on old nylon sprayskirt, - it helped, but the smell from the bowl was terrible. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex, I bought some clear "Shoe Goo" from the local sporting goods store. It's similar to "Seam Grip" which I think is polyurethane, not silicone. I spread it on the inside of my (formerly goretex) spray skirt using an old credit card. It worked fine, was low cost and doesn't smell bad after it dries. The down side to this is too much folding / flexing makes it leak. Another approach would be to make a waterproof bag to insert inside your deck bag. This could be sealed with "Shoe Goo" or instead use waterproof, heat-sealable nylon. The advantage here is this inner bag can be discarded and replaced after a season or two if it starts to leak. >I want to make a so-so waterproof deck-bag out of old day-pack. Is there > anything in liquid or spray that works, and not too exotic Cheers, Bill *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How about latex paint? Any paint or varnish would probably do the trick. Thin it down for a little more penetration. I would go to the local hardware store and see what they have in stock. There might be a concrete sealant that would work. On Oct 11, 2004, at 1:43 AM, alex wrote: > I want to make a so-so waterproof deck-bag out of old day-pack. Is > there > anything in liquid or spray that works, and not too exotic - can't > mail-order > such things into Canada (wouldn't make economic sense either). Tried > 80/20 mix > of turpentine and silicon sealer a while ago on old nylon sprayskirt, > - it > helped, but the smell from the bowl was terrible. > Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks 824 Thompson St Glastonbury, CT 06033 USA Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847 http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> How about latex paint? Any paint or varnish would probably do the > trick. Thin it down for a little more penetration. I would go to the > local hardware store and see what they have in stock. There might be a > concrete sealant that would work. I thought of concrete sealant, because already have one - Thomson Water Seal for wood and concrete. Only somebody told me, that it was cancerogenic - but then any such impregnant is, except, may be, silicon-based ones. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi All Has anyone written a Visual Basic interogation protocol for the Garmin GPS map 76 (Or any other Garmin GPS) Ian Dewey Manager - Canoe Education Australian Canoeing *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] Alex, Don't be so quick to listen to others. Many people think all chemicals are bad and harmful (totally forgetting that everything is composed of chemicals). Here's a link that I found in about 5 seconds that indicates any possible health risks of Thompson's Water Seal. http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id= 20008008 Steve Holtzman Southern CA Industrial Water Chemist > alex wrote: > > I thought of concrete sealant, because already have one - > Thomson Water Seal for wood and concrete. Only somebody told > me, that it was cancerogenic - but then any such impregnant > is, except, may be, silicon-based ones. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> chemicals). Here's a link that I found in about 5 seconds that indicates any > possible health risks of Thompson's Water Seal. > > http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id= > 20008008 Thanks; useful link. It would be really odd, indeed, if water seal for house decks etc, in frequent contact with bare feet and/or hands, would release much cancirogenic substances after drying. And this water-seal has been quite a long time on the market. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 11 Oct 2004 at 14:14, alex wrote: > Thanks; useful link. It would be really odd, indeed, if water seal > for house decks etc, in frequent contact with bare feet and/or hands, > would release much cancirogenic substances after drying. And this > water-seal has been quite a long time on the market. For the cost of these nasty coatings, you could buy a meter of waterproof nylon and sew it into a servicable underdeck bag. Seal the seams with Aquaseal or seam sealer (forget which brand but one of them is really good - used it one a tent 7 years ago and it's still going strong). Instructions on KayakWiki under Kayak Modifications/Knee tubes and Shelves: <http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/guille/wiki.pl?HomePage> NOt explicit instructions, but guidelines and ideas. An underdeck bag will be drier than a deck bag if your kayak has the room to suit your needs. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex, I'll second Steve's assessment. Here is the statement off the MSDS regarding carcinogenicity: "Carcinogenicity: MSDS: The ingredients in this product are not identified as carcinogens by NTP, IARC and OSHA." Further down it identifies the ingredients as a collection of organic solvents (pretty close to mineral spirits -- aka paint thinner) and paraffin wax. You could make your own Thompson's by dissolving a couple candles in a gallon of paint thinner, and save a few more bucks, Alex. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holtzman" <sh_at_actglobal.net> > Don't be so quick to listen to others. Many people think all chemicals are > bad and harmful (totally forgetting that everything is composed of > chemicals). Here's a link that I found in about 5 seconds that indicates > any > possible health risks of Thompson's Water Seal. http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id= 20008008 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Suspect that the silicone sealer in a less smelly and perhaps more volatile solvent - e.g. white gas/naptha - may be a better bet than latex paint or varnish. Latex paint and varnish are formulated to be used on solid surfaces, and therefore will not have much resistance to flexation when dry. Bill's suggestion of a 'Shoe Goo' product might work - again if it is thinned with some type of non-smelly solvent to allow for better penetration. My experience years ago with Shoe Goo was that it was a very thick product, and therefore hard to apply. Since it hardens by evaporation of solvent(s), thinning it out a bit more may make it more useful in such an application. Haven't tried any of these ideas myself, just thinking out loud..... Play Hard, Erik On Monday, October 11, 2004 11:27 AM, Nick wrote: > How about latex paint? Any paint or varnish would probably do the > trick. Thin it down for a little more penetration. I would go to the > local hardware store and see what they have in stock. There might be a > concrete sealant that would work. > > On Oct 11, 2004, at 1:43 AM, alex wrote: > > > I want to make a so-so waterproof deck-bag out of old day-pack. Is > > there > > anything in liquid or spray that works, and not too exotic - can't > > mail-order > > such things into Canada (wouldn't make economic sense either). Tried > > 80/20 mix > > of turpentine and silicon sealer a while ago on old nylon sprayskirt, > > - it > > helped, but the smell from the bowl was terrible. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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